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the plan is trusting masters almost

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surely have a plan this clearly maybe

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something there beyond the realm of man

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and it's already tested every last ghost

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just you find the more you think you

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know the less you do that's true without

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all right higher side shadows life is a

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strange and mysterious thing with the

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collective brainpower of the planets

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people past and present really haven't

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gotten that far to figuring out is a

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consciousness controlled romp through

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the material plane for the sake of

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smelling roses and eatin chocolate is it

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a virus unpacking itself and evolving

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until it can build its own God or is it

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some cosmic school for self development

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where we swim up the spiritual river

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like salmon destined to spawn folks we

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have no idea but what we do know is that

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we spend about a third of our whole

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earthly experience and sleep mode

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unconscious unaware and ultimately

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unleashed into a different experience

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altogether the dream time and while we

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must sleep and dream to live we dedicate

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little time to understanding what might

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be the weirdest aspect of life when you

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get down to it our dreams really just

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screensavers four active minds while the

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body recharges or should we be pulling

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out powerful meaning from the symbols

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and the messages delivered by a

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subconscious yearning to be acknowledged

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most of us have probably had times where

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a dream felt like more than just a dream

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and with us to sort out this mess and

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better understand the signs and symbols

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of the dream state is the great decoder

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himself JM debord

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JM is the author of Dreams one two three

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remember interpret and live your dreams

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and more recently the heavy tome that

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found its way to higher sized studios

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the dream interpretation dictionary sign

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symbols and meanings nearly four hundred

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and fifty pages of alphabetically

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organized aspects that many people

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encounter in their dreams from aliens to

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zombies and everything in between

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he's also a frequent partaker and the

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sacrament we call reddit where he is

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known as rad owl the reddit dream expert

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a respectable title if I do say so

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myself and I can't wait to get down to

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it JM Debord welcome to the higher side

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Oh Greg it is a pleasure to be here

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thank you for having me yeah man

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thanks for being here I did have a lot

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of fun with the dream interpretation

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dictionary I think a lot of people feel

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like there is some meaning in what they

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dream but very little in our waking life

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really provides us with this

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skills to decode them unless we really

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dedicate some effort on our own and so

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I'm curious how this kind of became your

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thing obviously others have tried to

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wear the crown but what got you into

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dream interpretation and what makes your

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approach different or maybe even more

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accurate than what's already out there

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well you know in your introduction you

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talked about how we are looking we know

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that life is more than just this

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biological matter that is spinning

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through space and you know that there is

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something more to all of this and that

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our dreams seem to provide a portal to

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it except dreams can appear to be very

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disconnected from your everyday reality

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you know you have a dream about being

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back in high school but that was 20

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years ago when you graduated and you're

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standing there and you know it's this

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teacher you don't know when your pants

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are down around your ankles and people

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are laughing at you and you're going

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wait wait I'm not in high school anymore

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why would I dream about this well if you

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break it down there's some kind of

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meaning behind it so I started off I

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really was I've always been interested

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in exploring the mind especially the

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parts of it that were not very aware of

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you I call it the subconscious or the

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unconscious you know most of our mind is

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beyond our awareness 95 to 99 percent of

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the mind is unconscious so that means

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this little tip of the iceberg that we

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know as our as our conscious mind as our

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ego or as ourselves is just this very

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small part of the big picture so of

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course I've always been interested in

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anything that can tell me more about how

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we tick and how we really work inside of

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ourselves but Greg there's another part

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of it which was when I was in my mid-20s

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I was looking for answers it was sort of

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a classic situation where I you know I'm

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hitting a wall in my life and I'm

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looking and I'm not finding what I'm

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looking for you know in a very

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synchronous experience a neighbor friend

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of mine showed me chapters from a book

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printed off of a computer this is back

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in mid 90s oh you couldn't just like you

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know hop on the Amazon and grab your

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favorite book right so I found this guy

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this writer his name was Larry Pesavento

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and I was reading the

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chapters of his book that he was passing

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around among friends and he referred to

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dreams and he referred to a guy named

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dr. Carl Jung the Swiss psychiatrist and

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anyone who delves into the mystic and

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the unknown is going to run across Carl

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Jung at some point because he is our

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captain he is the one who explored those

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depths and I caught on to Jung and it

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was just like something lit a fire in my

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mind I found somebody who could take

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these things that were batting around in

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my head that were related to the psyche

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and spirituality and religion and God

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and experience and soul and all of that

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and put it into the language of

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psychiatry and it just resonated with me

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very deeply so I started a very deep

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exploration and I found it in through my

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dreams that I was gaining the answers

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and the insights that I needed and then

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I started going public with it first

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among friends and stuff but just sort of

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helping them with their dreams I met my

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wife Lisa and she was in a transition in

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her life about ten years ago and I

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helped her understand the dreams that

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she was having and how they were

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connecting with her life and I want wow

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you know I think I really am on to

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something here so then I dropped by

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reddit yes our our friend reddit swear

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you know we explore many different

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subjects and there is a dreams forum

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there and I just started talking to

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people about their dreams that I wasn't

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interpreter just somebody who had really

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deep personal interest and fascination

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with it so from there I got great

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feedback from people and I decided I

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needed to bottle the magic so I wrote

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Dreams one two three and that opened up

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the door into the publishing industry

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which had been closed to me I had tried

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I worked in journalism and I worked in

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various media television and radio and I

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novel I had these great ideas about

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being an author and you know writing

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books it really changed people's lives

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book about dreams she wasn't even my

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you not after two weeks after she signed

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really it's been a heck of a journey

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since then I have gone really deep with

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this subject and I find that I have a

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way of explaining it to people that

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strips out the jargon and and some of

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the academic talk and it really puts it

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in terms of understanding your dreams as

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stories about yourself in your life with

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the purpose of helping you to learn and

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grow that is the bottom line right there

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and if you start there then everything

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builds on top of that into this

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structure in your mind that can help you

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to analyze and understand your dreams so

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that kind of makes a short story long

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Greg but that's how I got in the dream

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interpretation oh I love it can't argue

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with that it is nice when you find your

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wheelhouse isn't it so if we wanted to

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perspective what can you tell us what do

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you think is really happening there why

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go over this in my book the dream

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interpretation dictionary is you need to

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understand the reasons why you dream

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there are biological there are mental

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the bottom line really which is agreed

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upon from all the different disciplines

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that have looked at dreaming is that you

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dream to process and collate your

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memories you're taking the experiences

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that you've had since the last time that

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you slept and you're processing them

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psyche so all of those memories are

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there they're stored in short-term

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memory and when you go to sleep and your

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dream your mind is figuring out where

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this new experience these new memories

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where does it fit into who and what you

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that they do is they help to get into

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your emotions they delve down in there

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they trigger emotions they remind you of

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what you felt they help you to more

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deeply process those emotions in some

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emotional storage banks

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they are helping you to recharge you

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you so that you can wake up the next day

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and go okay I'm ready to take on the

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world again I mean imagine if you woke

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up and you felt the same way as when you

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went to sleep imagine if all of the

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emotion and feeling and thoughts and

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everything else was still there and you

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just continue adding on to it and then

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the next day you wake up and you add on

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to that they would get to a point where

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I think that most people would not be

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able to handle it anymore

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it would just be head explode you know

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there's too much so your dreams are

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really helping you to process this

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day-to-day activity and helping you a to

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release it and B to figure out how it

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fits into you to sort of in collate it

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sort of like what a computer does when

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it processes information more deeply

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into its circuitry and it's chips and

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it's hard drive and stuff like that then

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there's a deeper layer call it the

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spirit layer there is this thing inside

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of you that is wanting to have more

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meaning in satisfaction and fulfillment

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from your life and it often gets

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overlooked or neglected sometimes we're

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just too busy to pay much attention to

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the side of ourselves that is trying to

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find expression it wants to live you

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know to be or not to be that is the

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question it's you know how much life are

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you going to grab out of this experience

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how much are you going to engage and

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dive down into this experience dreams

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are your facilitator for that they help

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you to understand what's really going on

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underneath the surface they help to

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bring things forward so that you don't

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overlook them they want you to connect

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very deeply inside of yourself and also

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with the world and the people who are in

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it so your dreams are helping you on a

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nightly basis or whatever you sleep it

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could be a daily basis they're helping

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you they're trying to get you to learn

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and to grow to engage with your life to

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find more meaning and fulfillment and

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satisfaction from it it can go deeper

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than that Gregg and I'm sure that in the

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rest of our talk here that we'll delve

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into some of the the psychic side of

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dreams dreams about finding soulmates

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and the love of your life and dreams

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being abducted by aliens and we'll get

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into the symbolism and all that but for

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now I think the bottom line is you dream

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to learn and to grow it helps you to be

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able to handle your daily life better

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and it helps you to find that deep

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person that's inside of yourself hmm

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yeah man I think that makes a lot of

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sense and kind of like you said I think

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dreaming to me is like a baked-in

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mechanism to entice us to further

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explore the mysteries of life in

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consciousness because the authoritarian

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system you know it can reduce this down

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to joyless worker drones who are overly

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obsessed with artificial distractions

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like debt and sports they can leave

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meditation and spiritual development out

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of our entire education and try to ban

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entheogenic exploration but from slaves

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right on up to Kings you can bet that

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they're going to be going into a trance

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state when the Sun doesn't shine and

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that is a hell of a thing to take for

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granted really boy you know it's kind of

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like everybody dreams and everybody pays

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taxes well you know most everybody does

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and you know there are a few things

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basically the point is that there are a

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few things in life that are common to

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all of us I find as a moderator at

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reddit you know I'm reading sometimes as

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many as a couple of dozen dream reports

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per day that's the the good days when I

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really have time to devote there and I

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get a very good feel for what people are

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dreaming right now and why and you

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mentioned that feeling of sort of just

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being a worker drone who's going through

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life without finding anything deeper to

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it and in my experience as a moderator

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as a dream interpreter and just as a

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dreamer I find that dreams are really

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focusing in on that aspect of life they

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want you to find something deeper for

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yourself if you need to disconnect from

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the rat race your dreams will show you

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how to do it it may not be able to

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happen immediately but they will guide

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you towards finding that thing in your

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life that's going to help you to get

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more out of it and if that means no

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longer being a worker drone that's fine

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you know some people are happy with that

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their work is only to get a paycheck and

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benefit so that they can raise a family

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or whatever it is that they want to do

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outside of work so they don't always

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have to have work that's the most

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creative or the most fulfilling it's

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just you know steady and dependable is

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really what they're looking for but if

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you do want more from life if you do

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want to be a more creative person if you

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want to be a more spiritual person your

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dreams will be glad to guide you in that

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endeavor the unconscious mind is always

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in the background reviewing what you as

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an ego or conscious mind what you are

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doing what you are thinking what your

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desires are what your goals and

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ambitions are so when you hit upon

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something that the unconscious mind

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agrees with when you'd make a decision

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that you're going to do something like

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let's say you decide I'm going to make

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time to meditate because I want to find

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that deep inner center of my being I

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want to find that calm in that peace

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well that is something that your

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unconscious mind can really agree with

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you know it can say okay I'm going to

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facilitate this I'm going to help you

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with that goal together we are going to

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march forward towards this and when you

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have both sides of the mind working

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together you can really get to that goal

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I listen to your interview with Bruce

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Lipton and he talks about this too that

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you can decide something consciously you

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can say that you believe something you

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can have the power of positive thinking

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or whatever but if it's not resonating

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with the other side of your mind if the

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two sides of your mind are not an

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ingredient well now they're going to

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pull in different directions and it's

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just going to become this big energy

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vacuum it's going to suck it into that

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black hole and you're not going to get

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to that place where you're trying to get

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to when the two sides of the mind agree

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and dreams are a great way of helping

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you to hash these things out between the

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two sides of the mind and come to

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agreement well when that happens you are

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able to more easily manifest the things

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in your life that you can imagine for

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yourself and that you desire and that

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your heart wants mmm those are great

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points and you know dreams can be so

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surreal an obvious

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not all dreams are created equal how can

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we determine if and where there is

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meaning and you know which types of

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dreams or symbols to prioritize when

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we're trying to look for that meaning

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great question I get asked this a lot

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and so I want to delve into this because

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your audience needs to know your

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listeners they need to know the answer

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to this question because you know you

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can dream in REM stage sleep for up to

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25% of the time while you are asleep

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that means 25% of the time you are in a

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stage of sleep that involves intense and

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vivid dreaming if you sleep for eight

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hours that is two hours of dream

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material that you can potentially wake

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up with and it's all going to be calling

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out to you to do something with it well

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fortunately a lot of that processing

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happens subconsciously and you already

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know the meaning of your dreams because

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they are invented deep in your mind it's

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just it's a part of your mind that most

430
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people are kind of disconnected from so

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it seems like their dreams kind of come

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out of nowhere and that they are

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meaningless a lot of people come away

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with this studies have shown that more

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than half of people wake up with little

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to no memory of their dreams and I

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haven't seen the latest numbers but I

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can tell you that around the same amount

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of the population thinks that dreams are

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meaningless

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it's just praying farts you know it's

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just this biological process that's

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going on that's producing imagery and

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the brain is taking that imagery and

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trying to weave it together into some

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kind of meaning because the brain has a

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proclivity for trying to find meaning

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and pattern in everything well here's

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the secret sauce for you great some

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dreams are meaningless they are just the

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warmup

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they are your mind that starts producing

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imagery and oftentimes it's very basic

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sort of patterned imagery or memories

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from the day like let's say that you're

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a trucker you spend all day on the

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highway you get to your hotel or to your

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home you plop down in your bed you start

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to dream and dream in the sense of

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there's just imagery behind your eyes

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you're going to dream about the highway

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you know you're going to dream about

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what you would do

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during the day it's just going to be

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sort of a review of this but without

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even a meaningfulness to it it's just

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more like let's clear out these

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short-term memory banks we're going to

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just fit all this stuff out and your

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dreams will provide a view into what is

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basically a neurological or mental

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process now as the night goes on and

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your body first gets the rest that it

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needs your REM stages will grow longer

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first you have these long stages of deep

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sleep it's just deep dead sleep you

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might have some imagery behind your eyes

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but it's not going to be beaming 'full

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when it gets meaningful is when that

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imagery forms into stories

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bottom line right there boom stories and

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when the stories engage you when they

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get interesting and your mind and your

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feelings that when it engages with these

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stories that's when you know that you're

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getting to the meaningful contents the

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symbols in the dreams the dreams take

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your memories they turn them into

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symbols and then the symbols turn into

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stories when the stories get really

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interesting that is when you engage the

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most with them and then when you engage

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the most with them those tend to be the

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dreams that are also the most memorable

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so you wake up in the morning and what

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you are left with if you are like most

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people who spend at least a little bit

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of time with your dreams you can

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remember maybe five to ten minutes of

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contents that five to ten minutes is the

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most important information that you need

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to draw out of dreamland and pull into

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your waking life and do some deeper

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thinking on it sometimes it doesn't even

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necessarily have to be analyzed just

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look at the dream as a story that's what

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it is we can all analyze stories you

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don't have to have a PhD you don't have

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to wear the guru robes anyone can

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understand the story every day of our

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lives

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we are taking in stories and every day

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we are creating stories especially the

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narratives of our lives we take our

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lives and we turn into a narrative a

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narrative as a story so when that

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happens you have this base of knowledge

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inside of you about how

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Dory's work and that knowledge can be

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used to tell you how dreams work so the

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most meaningful dreams are the ones that

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stand out they're the most memorable and

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they're the most story like and they're

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the most engaging to you you can pull

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out five or ten minutes of the most

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meaningful content and really focus on

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that the rest of it well you know if

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there's something that's important there

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and you either don't remember it or

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you're unable to understand or analyze

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it it'll come back this is one of the

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things that I teach in my workshops in

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my lectures a lot of people who come to

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them are new to dream work and they ask

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me what should I focus on and I say the

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recurring themes and imagery from your

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dreams we all have recurring dreams

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there are different types of them and I

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explain the difference in my book but

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you have the recurring dreams are what I

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call the lowest hanging fruit on the

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tree it's the easiest to reach out and

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grab hold of and pull close to yourself

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and then to analyze it and understand it

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I'll give you a quick example I have

546
00:21:48,330 --> 00:21:46,690
recurring dreams about working in a

547
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,340
restaurant as a waiter I did this for

548
00:21:52,919 --> 00:21:50,559
years and you know the younger part of

549
00:21:55,860 --> 00:21:52,929
my life and I haven't done it in years

550
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:55,870
but I still dream about it on a almost

551
00:22:01,580 --> 00:21:58,720
nightly basis there will be some dream

552
00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:01,590
in there where I am in a restaurant and

553
00:22:09,180 --> 00:22:04,390
most the time of those dreams that stand

554
00:22:11,610 --> 00:22:09,190
out to me are the ones where I am I look

555
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:11,620
out at my station at waiter stations all

556
00:22:17,130 --> 00:22:13,090
the tables that you're responsible for

557
00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:17,140
and I've gone from no one to packed this

558
00:22:21,810 --> 00:22:19,000
is the waiters nightmare by the way is

559
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:21,820
that suddenly having too much to do you

560
00:22:25,890 --> 00:22:23,890
want to have like a nice flow of work

561
00:22:27,390 --> 00:22:25,900
coming to you so that you can handle it

562
00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:27,400
all and you can you know give everybody

563
00:22:30,990 --> 00:22:29,110
the experience they're looking for and

564
00:22:33,090 --> 00:22:31,000
you make good tips off of it right it's

565
00:22:35,010 --> 00:22:33,100
when you get overwhelmed is when

566
00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:35,020
everything starts to fall apart and when

567
00:22:39,450 --> 00:22:37,150
you start having that very heavy stress

568
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:39,460
from the job in my dreams this is what

569
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:41,200
happens over and over again I go from

570
00:22:45,630 --> 00:22:43,330
zero to a thousand miles an hour and a

571
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:45,640
heartbeat and I'm going how am I going

572
00:22:50,430 --> 00:22:47,890
to do all of this well this is what I

573
00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:50,440
figured out from analyzing these dreams

574
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:53,260
is that theme connects in with the idea

575
00:22:57,670 --> 00:22:54,650
of having to

576
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,680
much to do in my waking life I have too

577
00:23:02,740 --> 00:22:59,360
much to do I have too much that's

578
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:02,750
competing for my attention that is what

579
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:04,730
all of those people who are in my dream

580
00:23:07,390 --> 00:23:06,170
and they're sitting at tables and

581
00:23:09,070 --> 00:23:07,400
they're reading menus and they're

582
00:23:10,780 --> 00:23:09,080
waiting for me to come along and take

583
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:10,790
their order and deliver their drinks and

584
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:12,890
their food and all that that's what they

585
00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:15,410
symbolize they symbolize the things in

586
00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:18,350
my life that need my attention it can be

587
00:23:22,690 --> 00:23:20,300
people in my life that need my attention

588
00:23:25,630 --> 00:23:22,700
but it can also just be the things that

589
00:23:27,580 --> 00:23:25,640
are on my to-do list so now when I have

590
00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:27,590
a recurring dream like that when that

591
00:23:33,910 --> 00:23:31,100
pops up I know to look at my daily life

592
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:33,920
and go okay I either need to really

593
00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:35,930
buckle down and get things knocked off

594
00:23:41,170 --> 00:23:38,990
of my to-do list or I need to simplify I

595
00:23:43,930 --> 00:23:41,180
need to get a few of those things off of

596
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:43,940
my list and just realize hey maybe my

597
00:23:47,950 --> 00:23:45,890
ambitions are larger than my ability to

598
00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:47,960
be able to achieve all of them that's

599
00:23:53,290 --> 00:23:50,720
okay to pare down that list somehow so

600
00:23:56,350 --> 00:23:53,300
look at your recurring dreams start

601
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:56,360
there they are the most important themes

602
00:24:00,880 --> 00:23:59,360
and the stories that pop up in your

603
00:24:03,010 --> 00:24:00,890
dreams you're going to find them there

604
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:03,020
if you start with your recurring dreams

605
00:24:07,090 --> 00:24:04,850
and you can start to understand some of

606
00:24:10,090 --> 00:24:07,100
the imagery and the symbolism you can

607
00:24:13,270 --> 00:24:10,100
use it as your answer key so now when

608
00:24:15,670 --> 00:24:13,280
you have another dream that is about the

609
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,680
same subject or it brings up the same

610
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,320
sort of story theme you can wake up and

611
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:20,240
you immediately have some of the

612
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:22,910
groundwork laid you know you wake up and

613
00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:25,490
you go okay I understand this part of

614
00:24:29,890 --> 00:24:27,560
the dream what is the rest of it mean

615
00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:29,900
and when you have that answer key from

616
00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:31,580
figuring out the certain parts that

617
00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:34,190
recurring dreams now you can go to the

618
00:24:39,340 --> 00:24:36,260
rest of the dream and figure it out more

619
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:39,350
easily right on yeah that's great advice

620
00:24:45,010 --> 00:24:41,840
for getting started and to dive a little

621
00:24:47,260 --> 00:24:45,020
deeper into that so if dreaming is some

622
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,270
form of symbolic communication with our

623
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:49,520
subconscious to get better at receiving

624
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,890
the message sort of like we have to get

625
00:24:56,830 --> 00:24:53,840
familiar with the language of course

626
00:24:57,460 --> 00:24:56,840
most languages have a structure or set

627
00:25:00,010 --> 00:24:57,470
of rules

628
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:00,020
various ways to emphasize certain things

629
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:02,690
over others is there a reliable

630
00:25:06,370 --> 00:25:04,850
universal structure to the way the

631
00:25:07,910 --> 00:25:06,380
subconscious communicates like

632
00:25:10,790 --> 00:25:07,920
highlighting things and

633
00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:10,800
certain colors or forms or just certain

634
00:25:14,990 --> 00:25:12,510
forms of emphasis anything else like

635
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:15,000
that you know a great way to think about

636
00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:17,910
dreams is they do use a language and the

637
00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:20,790
language is symbolism so that is really

638
00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:23,310
the place to begin and decoding

639
00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:25,950
symbolism is one of the first things

640
00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:28,260
that I teach about dream interpretation

641
00:25:33,290 --> 00:25:30,870
now from that and we can launch more

642
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:33,300
into how to decode symbolism we can do

643
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:35,820
that a little bit later now you asked if

644
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:38,370
there is a way that dreams have a

645
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:40,530
structure to them is there a universal

646
00:25:46,490 --> 00:25:44,010
way that they create their stories and I

647
00:25:48,530 --> 00:25:46,500
won't say universal but I have noticed a

648
00:25:50,510 --> 00:25:48,540
pattern and as somebody with a

649
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:50,520
journalism background I know the

650
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:51,960
structure of the way that you're

651
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:53,850
supposed to present most stories it's

652
00:25:59,870 --> 00:25:56,700
the inverted pyramid structure and I

653
00:26:02,510 --> 00:25:59,880
have recognized that dreams use sort of

654
00:26:05,540 --> 00:26:02,520
a structure like that it's a called a

655
00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:05,550
template and that many dreams will

656
00:26:12,110 --> 00:26:08,760
follow that template and here it is it

657
00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:12,120
starts off by giving the subject of the

658
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,860
dream when somebody gives me a

659
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:16,320
description of a dream I often find the

660
00:26:21,410 --> 00:26:18,450
subject in the first sentence or two and

661
00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:21,420
then what it's going to do is it's going

662
00:26:25,910 --> 00:26:24,030
to review the past it's going to talk

663
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:25,920
about the present and it's going to

664
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:29,250
point towards the future so if let's say

665
00:26:35,090 --> 00:26:31,650
that this is a dream is addressing an

666
00:26:37,910 --> 00:26:35,100
issue in your life and it started when

667
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:37,920
your parents divorced and you were a

668
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:40,440
teenager and something happened to you

669
00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:43,530
it caused a rift inside of you it might

670
00:26:48,290 --> 00:26:46,020
have been many many years ago but that

671
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:48,300
rift is not healed let's just use this

672
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:52,290
as an example so now the dream puts you

673
00:26:59,270 --> 00:26:55,440
in your family home where you used to

674
00:27:03,140 --> 00:26:59,280
live where the divorce happened and it

675
00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:03,150
somehow and the first scene is going to

676
00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:06,150
say that this dream is about what

677
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:09,870
happened back then and then it's going

678
00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:12,210
to show you where you are in the

679
00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:14,340
presence of your life if there is

680
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:16,860
something that is unhealed it might show

681
00:27:21,690 --> 00:27:20,190
a way it'll speak in symbolism it might

682
00:27:25,170 --> 00:27:21,700
show it as a wound

683
00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:25,180
on your body it might project out that

684
00:27:28,860 --> 00:27:27,400
wound on to someone else like let's say

685
00:27:31,410 --> 00:27:28,870
a sibling who was there who also

686
00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:31,420
experienced the divorce now you're

687
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:32,680
looking out and you're seeing your

688
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:34,450
sibling and your sibling is wounded or

689
00:27:38,370 --> 00:27:36,250
covered in blood well that could make

690
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:38,380
people really distressed but it is a

691
00:27:44,780 --> 00:27:41,530
language of symbolism and the blood or

692
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:44,790
the wound represents the emotional the

693
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:47,650
psychological wound of the experience of

694
00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:50,110
the family divorce it puts you in a

695
00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:52,750
setting of the old family home to refer

696
00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:54,760
to the past it says this is the place

697
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:55,630
where you lived

698
00:28:00,120 --> 00:27:57,730
when this wounding experience happens

699
00:28:02,610 --> 00:28:00,130
and then it's going to point towards

700
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:02,620
what's coming up in the future

701
00:28:07,470 --> 00:28:05,530
which is if you are dreaming about this

702
00:28:08,730 --> 00:28:07,480
it probably means that you are ready to

703
00:28:10,590 --> 00:28:08,740
heal from it

704
00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:10,600
even if you don't consciously realize it

705
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,670
there is energy that's coming up from

706
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:15,520
deep in the mind in the subconscious

707
00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:18,370
part of the mind and that energy can be

708
00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:21,100
used to help to heal now I'll give you a

709
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:23,320
quick example from a dream that I use

710
00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:26,170
this actually in my book there was a man

711
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:28,120
who came to Reddit who said that he had

712
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:30,820
this dream that he was back in his

713
00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:33,010
family home he's there with his sister

714
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:36,040
he here is on the radio that there is a

715
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:38,170
big tornado coming

716
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:40,450
he looks outside and he sees the black

717
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:43,270
clouds and they are rolling in real fast

718
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,270
he realizes that they need to get to the

719
00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:48,880
basement he goes down to the basement

720
00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:51,990
and his sister is already there she

721
00:28:59,310 --> 00:28:55,870
screams at the top of her lungs we

722
00:29:00,990 --> 00:28:59,320
should have seen it coming now you might

723
00:29:03,870 --> 00:29:01,000
think that she's referring to the

724
00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:03,880
tornado and symbolically she is but what

725
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:05,470
she's really referring to is what I'll

726
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:08,110
get to in just a moment in the opening

727
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:10,090
of the dream we see the subject it's

728
00:29:15,210 --> 00:29:12,730
about his family home his parents are in

729
00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:15,220
the scene but the storm coming is

730
00:29:19,650 --> 00:29:16,870
telling him something that's the

731
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:19,660
symbolic language that says something is

732
00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:22,000
coming and it might be very tumultuous

733
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:25,960
in your life it might up end things for

734
00:29:30,990 --> 00:29:29,440
you because why because you have

735
00:29:33,030 --> 00:29:31,000
something that you haven't dealt with

736
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:33,040
it's been ten years since your parents

737
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:34,870
divorce but you haven't dealt with he

738
00:29:37,780 --> 00:29:35,360
can

739
00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:37,790
EAL this but its feelings that are way

740
00:29:40,419 --> 00:29:39,260
in the background so he's not very

741
00:29:43,270 --> 00:29:40,429
conscious of him yet

742
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:43,280
when he goes down into the basement what

743
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:46,250
that means is down to where into your

744
00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:49,370
memories especially the memories that

745
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:51,860
you are keeping out of sight because

746
00:29:57,910 --> 00:29:54,010
what is a basement used for in many

747
00:30:00,520 --> 00:29:57,920
situations it's to store things so your

748
00:30:03,549 --> 00:30:00,530
dream starts with that idea and it

749
00:30:06,669 --> 00:30:03,559
creates an idea around it and it uses

750
00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:06,679
the language of symbolism it says okay

751
00:30:11,289 --> 00:30:08,630
well it's in the basement because it's

752
00:30:13,450 --> 00:30:11,299
out of sight out of mind and what for

753
00:30:16,030 --> 00:30:13,460
you as the dreamer is out of sight out

754
00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:16,040
of mind the experience of your parents

755
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:18,169
divorce you were a teenager at the time

756
00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:20,809
and you just sort of went on with your

757
00:30:23,260 --> 00:30:21,320
life

758
00:30:25,090 --> 00:30:23,270
you didn't deal with any of it you just

759
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:25,100
went on with your life which is how many

760
00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:27,770
teenagers deal with traumatic situations

761
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:29,929
like that like hey don't bother me with

762
00:30:34,810 --> 00:30:32,450
this I'm 15 now I've got my friends I

763
00:30:38,049 --> 00:30:34,820
don't want to you know gee I don't have

764
00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:38,059
to deal with this so the real clue to

765
00:30:42,909 --> 00:30:40,190
the dream that ties it all together and

766
00:30:46,390 --> 00:30:42,919
I find this in most dreams is that there

767
00:30:50,409 --> 00:30:46,400
is one thing that will stand out to me

768
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:50,419
as very important in this dream it's the

769
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:54,799
sisters statement she says why didn't we

770
00:31:00,250 --> 00:30:58,490
see it coming what she's referring to is

771
00:31:02,530 --> 00:31:00,260
the parents divorce it was something

772
00:31:04,390 --> 00:31:02,540
that they saw the signs you know the

773
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:04,400
dark clouds were gathering in their

774
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,890
family relationship the parents were

775
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:08,960
having some trouble but for the most

776
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:10,910
part they kept it from their kids and

777
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:14,240
then all of a sudden the bomb drops the

778
00:31:18,490 --> 00:31:16,640
tornado descends out of the sky the

779
00:31:21,490 --> 00:31:18,500
parents say hey we're getting divorced

780
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:21,500
and the kids are like huh you know like

781
00:31:25,510 --> 00:31:24,080
oh okay I guess if we look back on it we

782
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:25,520
could have kind of seen the signs coming

783
00:31:31,210 --> 00:31:28,130
but you know hey this is still a big

784
00:31:33,549 --> 00:31:31,220
surprise to us now it also speaks to a

785
00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:33,559
deeper level of what's going on with the

786
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:35,390
dreamer because these memories are

787
00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:38,210
coming up at that time of his life for a

788
00:31:44,210 --> 00:31:41,900
reason and it's because he needs to go

789
00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:44,220
back and deal with it he

790
00:31:49,010 --> 00:31:46,590
needs to find the part of himself that

791
00:31:52,190 --> 00:31:49,020
his lost or split off from that

792
00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:52,200
experience his sister is in the dream

793
00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:55,260
because she was part of that experience

794
00:32:02,120 --> 00:31:59,130
too so this is the way that dreams take

795
00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:02,130
a situation they show you what happened

796
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:04,260
in the past they show you what's going

797
00:32:09,169 --> 00:32:06,990
on in the present and then what could be

798
00:32:11,690 --> 00:32:09,179
happening in the future and in this case

799
00:32:13,610 --> 00:32:11,700
what could be happening for this guy is

800
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,620
is is that he's going to go through a

801
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:15,120
period that's going to be very

802
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:17,730
emotionally turbulent for him you know

803
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:19,770
the tornado is going to descend and it

804
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,330
might upend his life a little bit

805
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:24,000
especially his internal life but if he

806
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:26,220
does that there is sort of a promise

807
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,530
that afterwards we'll be blue skies and

808
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:30,240
sunshine waiting for him in other words

809
00:32:35,390 --> 00:32:32,760
he's going to heal the past and it's

810
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:35,400
going to help him to better live in the

811
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:38,970
present hmm Wow I think that's a pretty

812
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:41,330
great example of an interpretation

813
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:44,580
template for a pretty specific situation

814
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:46,130
I think that makes a lot of sense and

815
00:32:51,860 --> 00:32:49,049
let's get deeper into that symbolism

816
00:32:55,310 --> 00:32:51,870
interpretation in general maybe some

817
00:32:58,039 --> 00:32:55,320
popular examples popular dreams people

818
00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:58,049
have for maximum relatability what would

819
00:33:02,149 --> 00:32:59,610
you say are some of the most common

820
00:33:05,270 --> 00:33:02,159
scenes and symbols and dreams and what

821
00:33:08,750 --> 00:33:05,280
they might mean well a very common theme

822
00:33:11,899 --> 00:33:08,760
that pops up is the dream about being in

823
00:33:14,810 --> 00:33:11,909
a car or driving a vehicle and it often

824
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:14,820
refers to the daily progress or course

825
00:33:19,399 --> 00:33:17,730
of your life and the amount of control

826
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:19,409
that you have because when you are

827
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:22,260
driving a car you have your hands on the

828
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:24,510
wheel and you have your feet on the

829
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:26,640
pedals and you are able to control the

830
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:28,950
speed and direction of the vehicle which

831
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:31,500
translated into dream language it means

832
00:33:35,270 --> 00:33:33,870
the speed and direction of your life now

833
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:35,280
what does it say when you are a

834
00:33:40,299 --> 00:33:37,890
passenger in a vehicle and somebody else

835
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:40,309
is driving it can mean that you are not

836
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:42,510
controlling the speed and direction of

837
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:45,210
your life or it could represent an area

838
00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:46,650
of your life like if it's your

839
00:33:52,220 --> 00:33:49,140
supervisor who's in the driver's seat of

840
00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:52,230
your car well now you know that your

841
00:33:57,169 --> 00:33:54,750
supervisor is controlling the speed and

842
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:57,179
direction of your work life it could be

843
00:33:59,170 --> 00:33:58,050
anyone it could be a

844
00:34:01,580 --> 00:33:59,180
parent who's in the driver's seat

845
00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:01,590
teenagers dream about this a lot they'll

846
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:03,180
be in the car with their parent and the

847
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:04,890
parent is driving because the parent is

848
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:06,090
the one who's in control of their life

849
00:34:10,460 --> 00:34:08,730
right or if they are the one who has to

850
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:10,470
take over the wheel what does that say

851
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:13,410
about the parents ability to lead so

852
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:16,110
that is one theme another one is being

853
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:19,410
in your home and you are either just

854
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:21,330
sort of going through what appears to be

855
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:23,850
a kind of ordinary situation with your

856
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:26,760
family or whoever you live with or you

857
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:29,250
are exploring your home and this is a

858
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:31,770
great chance for us to look at how

859
00:34:36,350 --> 00:34:33,690
dreams use the language of symbolism

860
00:34:38,870 --> 00:34:36,360
what is a home it is the place where you

861
00:34:40,820 --> 00:34:38,880
live what is your mind it's the place

862
00:34:42,919 --> 00:34:40,830
where your consciousness lives what is

863
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:42,929
your body it's the place where your mind

864
00:34:49,250 --> 00:34:46,290
and consciousness live so a home can

865
00:34:53,540 --> 00:34:49,260
represent that sort of metaphorical idea

866
00:34:55,910 --> 00:34:53,550
of the place where you live also a home

867
00:34:59,450 --> 00:34:55,920
is something that is constructed so a

868
00:35:02,330 --> 00:34:59,460
home can mean it can symbolize the ways

869
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:02,340
that you are building up your life now

870
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:05,790
take an idea such as a very common dream

871
00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:08,970
theme is you are in your home it may not

872
00:35:12,650 --> 00:35:10,680
look like the actual home that you live

873
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:12,660
in but you just know in the dream this

874
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:16,290
is this is my home and you find a new

875
00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:19,170
room or a new section to the home well

876
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:21,390
what does that mean take the previous

877
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:24,450
ideas home is your life it's the life

878
00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:26,850
you build or construct for yourself oh

879
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:30,270
well hey if you find a new room then it

880
00:35:34,850 --> 00:35:32,160
can mean you are finding out something

881
00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:34,860
new about yourself this is you

882
00:35:39,860 --> 00:35:37,470
discovering opening up some new area of

883
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:39,870
your life or of your psyche of your

884
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,480
being it can be a new area in your

885
00:35:46,820 --> 00:35:44,400
feelings it can be a new area of

886
00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:46,830
knowledge it can be an avenue for

887
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:49,380
exploration for something that you want

888
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:52,290
to find out more about about yourself in

889
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:56,250
particular so homes driving in cars and

890
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,770
then we can get into things that are say

891
00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:01,200
more specific themes being in school I

892
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:04,470
mentioned this earlier just briefly one

893
00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:05,910
of the great ways of interpreting a

894
00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:09,060
dream is start off by stepping back in

895
00:36:16,220 --> 00:36:11,790
simplifying the ideas that are presented

896
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:16,230
dreamz brainstorm ideas like other words

897
00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:19,110
that can be used in association with the

898
00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:21,180
characters in the settings you know like

899
00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:23,880
a police officer could mean Authority

900
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:26,100
you know a teacher could mean I'm

901
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:28,710
learning something a school has similar

902
00:36:34,070 --> 00:36:31,290
sorts of ideas but we need to expand

903
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:34,080
beyond the idea of just book learning

904
00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:36,540
dreams can address what you are learning

905
00:36:41,810 --> 00:36:39,270
academically if you are in school you

906
00:36:44,450 --> 00:36:41,820
are very likely to dream frequently

907
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,460
about school and being in school and the

908
00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:47,280
subjects related to school but if you or

909
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:49,560
somebody who say had to touch the

910
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:51,570
classroom in 20 years and you're

911
00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:53,490
dreaming about being in school all the

912
00:36:57,530 --> 00:36:55,470
time you know it has nothing to do

913
00:36:59,360 --> 00:36:57,540
really with academic learning unless of

914
00:37:01,460 --> 00:36:59,370
course that's going on in some way in

915
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:01,470
your life but what else are you learning

916
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:03,480
you're learning about yourself you're

917
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:05,400
learning about your life you could be

918
00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:08,970
learning more about work I find very

919
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:10,980
often a theme in the dreams of people

920
00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:12,930
who have encountered something at work

921
00:37:18,140 --> 00:37:15,960
and they are unprepared for it they will

922
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:18,150
dream about being back in school and

923
00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:20,370
it's exam day and they haven't been

924
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:23,670
there all semester or they find out that

925
00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:26,010
they have more classes to take in order

926
00:37:30,650 --> 00:37:27,960
to graduate I have that theme quite

927
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:30,660
often in my dreams and I have been able

928
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:33,720
to interpret and understand those dreams

929
00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:36,180
as I have encountered something in my

930
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:39,030
waking life and I don't feel prepared

931
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:41,700
for it school is what prepares us for

932
00:37:47,530 --> 00:37:44,760
our work life right well now you have a

933
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:47,540
dream that showing you in school and

934
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:51,450
when you are unprepared for an exam just

935
00:37:56,330 --> 00:37:53,730
simply look at it as what is something

936
00:37:59,660 --> 00:37:56,340
important going on in my life for which

937
00:38:01,760 --> 00:37:59,670
I feel unprepared simplify it down to

938
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:01,770
that and then oftentimes you can make

939
00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:04,530
that connection and go oh yeah hey you

940
00:38:08,930 --> 00:38:07,020
know well I'm writing a book I'm an

941
00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:08,940
author this actually happened to me and

942
00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:12,390
I am used to the journalism format of

943
00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:14,940
writing where I might pump out 500 or a

944
00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:18,150
thousand or 2,000 words and this is a

945
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:21,030
sixty thousand word manuscript and man

946
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,970
is it a lot to wrap my mind around there

947
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:25,119
is a lot of them

948
00:38:30,539 --> 00:38:27,849
Meishan here I'm not used to organizing

949
00:38:32,579 --> 00:38:30,549
all of this information and writing into

950
00:38:36,779 --> 00:38:32,589
a coherent structure where you start at

951
00:38:39,870 --> 00:38:36,789
page one and you end on page 240 and all

952
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:39,880
that flows together there is a skill set

953
00:38:44,999 --> 00:38:43,119
for that that most people are not going

954
00:38:48,539 --> 00:38:45,009
to be prepared for when they're in

955
00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:48,549
school because they're not writing 240

956
00:38:54,329 --> 00:38:51,220
page paper [\h__\h] unless you have a

957
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:54,339
master's thesis or a PhD dissertation or

958
00:38:59,549 --> 00:38:56,529
stuff that you are not dealing with work

959
00:39:02,099 --> 00:38:59,559
that it's that long so being in school

960
00:39:05,099 --> 00:39:02,109
being at home driving in your car these

961
00:39:06,779 --> 00:39:05,109
are very common themes I have one that

962
00:39:09,210 --> 00:39:06,789
has come up over and over again and

963
00:39:11,759 --> 00:39:09,220
maybe because I'm a moderator at Reddick

964
00:39:15,539 --> 00:39:11,769
and it's more of a younger crowd that's

965
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:15,549
very tuned into modern media I get a lot

966
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:19,569
of dreams about zombies what is it you

967
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:20,710
know I mean I've watched The Walking

968
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:22,480
Dead and I dug it and everything you

969
00:39:27,329 --> 00:39:24,730
know but man this theme pops up a lot

970
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:27,339
now if you step back from it and you

971
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:30,640
really simplify what is a zombie well

972
00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:32,170
there's different ways of looking at it

973
00:39:36,289 --> 00:39:34,390
and your dreams can use these different

974
00:39:39,509 --> 00:39:36,299
ways of looking at it to create

975
00:39:42,569 --> 00:39:39,519
symbolism to tell stories about what's

976
00:39:45,299 --> 00:39:42,579
going on in your life the events in your

977
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:45,309
life and also what's going on inside you

978
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:47,230
in your thoughts and then your feelings

979
00:39:53,489 --> 00:39:51,220
so you have the dream about a zombie and

980
00:39:56,099 --> 00:39:53,499
of course you have to look at it with

981
00:39:58,529 --> 00:39:56,109
other details of the story to really

982
00:40:01,229 --> 00:39:58,539
understand which use of the symbolism

983
00:40:02,670 --> 00:40:01,239
the dream is using all of the details of

984
00:40:05,339 --> 00:40:02,680
the dream tied together

985
00:40:07,859 --> 00:40:05,349
so if it is a zombie that's trying to

986
00:40:09,930 --> 00:40:07,869
eat your brains well that's one thing

987
00:40:11,729 --> 00:40:09,940
and it could mean that you feel like

988
00:40:14,009 --> 00:40:11,739
there is something that is sapping all

989
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:14,019
of the life or intelligence out of you

990
00:40:17,549 --> 00:40:15,730
you know maybe you've been watching too

991
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:17,559
much mindless television when it's like

992
00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:19,390
a zombie that's eating your brain this

993
00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:21,220
is a simplistic example but people

994
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:23,470
really do have this imagery this type of

995
00:40:28,229 --> 00:40:25,930
imagery pop up in their dreams but a

996
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:28,239
zombie could mean that you feel like you

997
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:30,910
are surrounded by mindless people the

998
00:40:36,210 --> 00:40:33,130
way that a zombie moves slowly and

999
00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:36,220
sluggishly that can describe how you

1000
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:38,670
feel about what's going on in your life

1001
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:41,130
out you might feel lethargic you know

1002
00:40:46,580 --> 00:40:43,650
you might feel slow but now let's get a

1003
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:46,590
little deeper a zombie is something that

1004
00:40:54,860 --> 00:40:49,920
is transforming but it got stuck between

1005
00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:54,870
two stages one is alive one is dead and

1006
00:41:00,260 --> 00:40:57,480
then you have your zombie that is in

1007
00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:00,270
between it's not fully alive it's not

1008
00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:02,760
fully dead right we'll start with that

1009
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,160
idea what could that describe about

1010
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:07,440
what's going on in your life what kind

1011
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:09,960
of situations could have described let's

1012
00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:12,930
say that you broke up with someone you

1013
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:14,760
had a relationship you broke up with

1014
00:41:19,820 --> 00:41:17,520
someone and you are still holding out

1015
00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:19,830
hope for that relationship well the

1016
00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:22,440
relationship is dead but your hope for

1017
00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:26,670
it is still alive it's a zombie okay so

1018
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:29,160
this is how dreams create symbolism you

1019
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:31,290
know I just talked about the ex I get a

1020
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:34,260
lot of dreams people coming to Reddit

1021
00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:35,430
and they want to know why they're

1022
00:41:39,050 --> 00:41:37,230
dreaming about their ex you know

1023
00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:39,060
somebody that they used to love and

1024
00:41:43,210 --> 00:41:41,220
maybe they still do love them but

1025
00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:43,220
they're not together as a couple anymore

1026
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:45,960
well there are a lot of reasons for this

1027
00:41:52,610 --> 00:41:48,690
different potential reasons for it and

1028
00:41:55,490 --> 00:41:52,620
most likely it is either that a you are

1029
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:55,500
learning from the experience so that you

1030
00:42:01,850 --> 00:41:59,760
don't repeat the same mistakes or B you

1031
00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:01,860
are recognizing something that's going

1032
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:04,140
on presently in your life that somehow

1033
00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:08,850
remind you of the past or C you have

1034
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:15,000
this thing going on where you you are

1035
00:42:19,850 --> 00:42:17,970
reminded of the past and you want the

1036
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:19,860
person and the qualities that they had

1037
00:42:26,180 --> 00:42:23,250
or that time of life and the dream uses

1038
00:42:29,060 --> 00:42:26,190
it as a symbol to tell a story around

1039
00:42:32,540 --> 00:42:29,070
just for example you see your ex in the

1040
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:32,550
dream because that is somebody who when

1041
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:34,050
you were in a relationship with that

1042
00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:36,540
person it brought out the best in you

1043
00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:39,030
you really wanted to be the best person

1044
00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:41,400
you could be because you are motivated

1045
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:43,380
by the desire to preserve the

1046
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:46,170
relationship now what's going on in your

1047
00:42:51,770 --> 00:42:48,510
life are you still trying to be the best

1048
00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:51,780
that you can be if so or even if not

1049
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:52,440
that

1050
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:54,569
can come up in the dream to represent

1051
00:43:00,140 --> 00:42:57,450
that idea and then the other details of

1052
00:43:02,750 --> 00:43:00,150
the dream will form together around that

1053
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:02,760
idea to tell the story about what's

1054
00:43:07,940 --> 00:43:05,520
going on presently in your life it

1055
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:07,950
refers to the past it talks about the

1056
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:09,930
present and then it points towards the

1057
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:11,730
future this is the standard structure

1058
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:14,609
what most dreams do so we can get into

1059
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:16,980
one other one real quick and I know that

1060
00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:18,900
your audience having listened to your

1061
00:43:24,859 --> 00:43:20,790
show I know your audiences better like

1062
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,869
this one aliens and UFOs and alien

1063
00:43:29,530 --> 00:43:26,400
abductions hell yeah

1064
00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:29,540
this theme seems to come up a lot and

1065
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:32,430
the ones that I talked about first the

1066
00:43:37,370 --> 00:43:34,650
dreams about your home dreams about your

1067
00:43:39,770 --> 00:43:37,380
car those are the most common themes but

1068
00:43:42,109 --> 00:43:39,780
then if you look at call them the outer

1069
00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:42,119
circle of themes that are still popular

1070
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:45,150
they arise a lot in people's dreams you

1071
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:47,910
get a lot of dreams about aliens and

1072
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:51,210
alien like subjects and what I find is

1073
00:43:58,700 --> 00:43:54,060
is that a dream begins with the idea of

1074
00:44:00,770 --> 00:43:58,710
alien and then simplify it now if you

1075
00:44:04,099 --> 00:44:00,780
think of an alien what is another word

1076
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:04,109
for alien an alien is foreign how can

1077
00:44:09,620 --> 00:44:06,930
you leave an idea or a story around that

1078
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:09,630
idea well you might be dreaming about

1079
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:12,690
something that is foreign to you it's

1080
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:15,089
outside the scope of your experience you

1081
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:18,569
might be dreaming about a foreigner take

1082
00:44:23,059 --> 00:44:21,060
some of the reports about aliens and

1083
00:44:26,050 --> 00:44:23,069
people how they interact with them and

1084
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:26,060
now you can create other stories you can

1085
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:29,609
address a subject such as the aliens are

1086
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:32,400
here to give us their cosmic wisdom and

1087
00:44:36,859 --> 00:44:34,170
knowledge well that could mean that you

1088
00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:36,869
are looking for something knowledge wise

1089
00:44:43,730 --> 00:44:39,900
especially spiritual knowledge that is

1090
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:43,740
outside of the norm aliens abduct people

1091
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:47,040
from their homes this is a common story

1092
00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:49,650
well how could that be used to relate to

1093
00:44:54,859 --> 00:44:52,500
what's going on in your life well maybe

1094
00:44:57,380 --> 00:44:54,869
you have a fear of being separated from

1095
00:45:00,200 --> 00:44:57,390
your family maybe that fear is just a

1096
00:45:02,270 --> 00:45:00,210
general fear or maybe you know that

1097
00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:02,280
let's say you are going to take a job

1098
00:45:06,410 --> 00:45:04,260
and it's going to take you to a new town

1099
00:45:10,339 --> 00:45:06,420
well that means you're going to be

1100
00:45:13,370 --> 00:45:10,349
separated from your family an alien and

1101
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:13,380
a UFO drops in out of the sky out of

1102
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,690
nowhere and it up ends your life kinda

1103
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:17,280
like the tornado that referred to

1104
00:45:21,230 --> 00:45:19,410
earlier well how can that be used to

1105
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:21,240
describe what's going on in your life

1106
00:45:26,569 --> 00:45:23,609
well it could mean that there is

1107
00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:26,579
something you fear or you think is

1108
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:28,950
suddenly going to change everything for

1109
00:45:33,260 --> 00:45:31,530
you this theme was very common back

1110
00:45:36,289 --> 00:45:33,270
during the Cold War when we were

1111
00:45:38,809 --> 00:45:36,299
constantly having this reminder that the

1112
00:45:41,180 --> 00:45:38,819
Soviet Union could launch their ICBMs

1113
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:41,190
any moment and what's going to happen

1114
00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:42,960
they're going to drop down from the sky

1115
00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:45,420
and it's going to destroy everything so

1116
00:45:51,620 --> 00:45:47,640
people started having a lot of dreams

1117
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:51,630
about aliens in order to describe what

1118
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:54,240
was going on and in their lives that

1119
00:45:57,859 --> 00:45:56,250
fear that something was just going to

1120
00:45:59,680 --> 00:45:57,869
drop down from the sky and suddenly

1121
00:46:02,510 --> 00:45:59,690
change or destroy everything

1122
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:02,520
hmm so pretty cool huh some interesting

1123
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:04,650
dream symbolism it goes on and on and

1124
00:46:09,410 --> 00:46:07,290
you know I talk about this in very great

1125
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:09,420
depth in my dream dictionary I really

1126
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:11,490
wanted to go into more depth than most

1127
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:14,730
dream dictionaries go into because there

1128
00:46:21,289 --> 00:46:17,849
are so many possibilities presented by

1129
00:46:24,140 --> 00:46:21,299
every dream symbol and the subjects the

1130
00:46:26,270 --> 00:46:24,150
symbolism is often so personal and the

1131
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:26,280
subjects of the dreams are so personal

1132
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,369
that it is impossible for someone like

1133
00:46:34,099 --> 00:46:31,440
me sitting at a computer typing words

1134
00:46:36,260 --> 00:46:34,109
into a document and then giving it to a

1135
00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:36,270
publisher and having them print it out

1136
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:38,790
and give it to you out there you know I

1137
00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:41,010
can't guess at everything that is going

1138
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:44,430
on in your life but I can teach you how

1139
00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:46,770
to decode the language of your dreams

1140
00:46:51,799 --> 00:46:49,740
for yourself so I did it in a dream

1141
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:51,809
dictionary format because that's very

1142
00:46:56,930 --> 00:46:54,930
accessible to people mm-hmm yeah that is

1143
00:46:59,780 --> 00:46:56,940
definitely fascinating and there is

1144
00:47:01,940 --> 00:46:59,790
actually some debate over if all

1145
00:47:03,799 --> 00:47:01,950
abduction experiences or alien

1146
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:03,809
experiences are dreams if there might be

1147
00:47:08,299 --> 00:47:05,970
a connection between the phenomenon and

1148
00:47:10,609 --> 00:47:08,309
the sleep state possibly it's just

1149
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:10,619
designed to feel like a dream but

1150
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:14,010
regardless you also share with me an

1151
00:47:17,450 --> 00:47:15,930
example that was pretty extreme I guess

1152
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:17,460
we could refer to it as the fisting

1153
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:20,130
example can you tell us about that one

1154
00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:23,100
yeah sure well this is one that I've

1155
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:24,990
gotta warn your audience I know you know

1156
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:26,640
we're we're all adults here we can

1157
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:29,610
handle this this was a real dream and I

1158
00:47:34,850 --> 00:47:31,920
use it as an example in my book in the

1159
00:47:38,540 --> 00:47:34,860
entry for fisting as in anal fisting

1160
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:38,550
okay but it's under 15 and it's a great

1161
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:41,610
example so let's delve into it so the

1162
00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:44,880
dream opens and the dreamer is observing

1163
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:48,540
in third person he sees a man who it

1164
00:47:52,070 --> 00:47:49,890
turns out looks a little bit like

1165
00:47:55,070 --> 00:47:52,080
himself but there's enough distance in

1166
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:55,080
the dream for him to just observe and he

1167
00:48:00,200 --> 00:47:57,450
sees the man be abducted off of the

1168
00:48:03,650 --> 00:48:00,210
street by an alien who is in a human

1169
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:03,660
disguise the alien takes the man through

1170
00:48:09,110 --> 00:48:05,850
a storefront to the back of the store

1171
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:09,120
and there he drops his pants and he

1172
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:11,250
reveals a fat bulb

1173
00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:14,810
sphyncter all right he compels the

1174
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:19,590
abductee to take his hand and put it

1175
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:22,290
inside of the sphincter and then his

1176
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:26,370
entire arm and then to well rock back

1177
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:29,610
and forth so as the man is compelled to

1178
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:32,970
do this the alien starts to glow blue

1179
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:38,400
and moan and he's approaching orgasm the

1180
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:41,330
man keeps fisting the alien and the

1181
00:48:48,260 --> 00:48:45,630
alien then like this blue light the

1182
00:48:51,170 --> 00:48:48,270
human disguise falls off of the alien

1183
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:51,180
kind of melts away and now the aid it's

1184
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:54,090
full-blown alien the alien is moaning a

1185
00:49:00,800 --> 00:48:56,670
reaches orgasm and then the man the

1186
00:49:03,950 --> 00:49:00,810
abductee dies in horror and a flash of

1187
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:03,960
blue light so this was a real dream and

1188
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:07,850
I help to interpret it at reddit and

1189
00:49:16,940 --> 00:49:12,720
this is what we came up with the man who

1190
00:49:20,330 --> 00:49:16,950
had the dream is a playwright and he has

1191
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:20,340
been commissioned to write a play for a

1192
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:23,760
man who is a foreigner so now we have

1193
00:49:26,810 --> 00:49:24,810
our first clue

1194
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:26,820
foreigner alien could there be a

1195
00:49:33,980 --> 00:49:30,450
connection okay the second part is the

1196
00:49:38,060 --> 00:49:33,990
store front the store front in the dream

1197
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:38,070
symbolizes the dreamers public work life

1198
00:49:43,850 --> 00:49:41,400
because a storefront is a public place

1199
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:43,860
that's related somehow to business and

1200
00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:46,290
work so the man's a playwright he's been

1201
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:48,780
commissioned by a foreigner and alien to

1202
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:51,690
write a play so what does it mean to be

1203
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,010
abducted well in this case it was that

1204
00:50:02,060 --> 00:49:59,280
the playwrights felt like he wouldn't

1205
00:50:04,370 --> 00:50:02,070
have been associated with this foreigner

1206
00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:04,380
and writing the play for this man unless

1207
00:50:08,359 --> 00:50:06,750
he needed to earn a buck so it's

1208
00:50:11,330 --> 00:50:08,369
something that he wouldn't be doing

1209
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:11,340
otherwise and his feelings about it are

1210
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:15,090
shown graphically in the scene where the

1211
00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:18,510
abductee fists the alien what that

1212
00:50:25,340 --> 00:50:21,480
expresses is demands feeling that his

1213
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:25,350
artistic creative side of himself feels

1214
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:27,810
like he is being compelled to do

1215
00:50:33,620 --> 00:50:30,570
something obscene for somebody else's

1216
00:50:36,980 --> 00:50:33,630
pleasure when you step back from that

1217
00:50:40,910 --> 00:50:36,990
scene and you simplify it that is what

1218
00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:40,920
it is saying he's compelled to do

1219
00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:43,470
something obscene for somebody else's

1220
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:46,140
pleasure now it's very subjectively

1221
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:49,050
based someone else might say hey you

1222
00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:50,880
gotta earn a buck and if this guy's

1223
00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:52,920
willing to pay then you just you know

1224
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:55,740
you dance to his tune well he said look

1225
00:51:00,260 --> 00:50:58,050
here's the thing the guy doesn't

1226
00:51:02,510 --> 00:51:00,270
understand our culture and he doesn't

1227
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:02,520
understand playwright culture he has

1228
00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:05,310
this idea of what he wants and it's very

1229
00:51:10,490 --> 00:51:08,070
much outside of the norm I keep coming

1230
00:51:12,050 --> 00:51:10,500
to him with my best work and then he's

1231
00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:12,060
rejecting it and making all these

1232
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:13,950
changes and he's forcing me to go back

1233
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:16,650
and kind of dance to his tune this is

1234
00:51:22,550 --> 00:51:19,650
why he feels abducted another layer of

1235
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:22,560
meaning to this is that he's forced to

1236
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:24,510
do this guy's bidding this foreigner

1237
00:51:31,250 --> 00:51:28,290
this alien so the dye in horror as the

1238
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:31,260
man orgasms it's just a very exaggerated

1239
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:33,450
as the alien orgasms right and the man

1240
00:51:37,849 --> 00:51:35,730
who's abducted dies in horror this is

1241
00:51:41,090 --> 00:51:37,859
just a very exaggerated way of

1242
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:41,100
expressing the feelings of the man who

1243
00:51:45,180 --> 00:51:43,170
is the playwright who was forced to do

1244
00:51:48,310 --> 00:51:45,190
the bidding of the foreigner it

1245
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:48,320
it's what one is it's very memorable but

1246
00:51:53,470 --> 00:51:50,750
two is even though it's exaggerated it

1247
00:51:55,870 --> 00:51:53,480
actually expresses how he feels I mean

1248
00:51:58,300 --> 00:51:55,880
he feels like he at any moment he could

1249
00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:58,310
kind of die in horror you know in the

1250
00:52:03,690 --> 00:52:01,520
Egret of exaggerated sense but there's a

1251
00:52:06,430 --> 00:52:03,700
side of him that is really just

1252
00:52:08,980 --> 00:52:06,440
horrified by what he's having to do and

1253
00:52:12,190 --> 00:52:08,990
he's doing it in order to be able to

1254
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:12,200
just earn a buck so that right there is

1255
00:52:17,410 --> 00:52:14,930
a great example of a way that a dream

1256
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:17,420
can use this sort of very shocking

1257
00:52:23,110 --> 00:52:20,480
sometimes you know even obscene imagery

1258
00:52:25,630 --> 00:52:23,120
to create a story around it and it's

1259
00:52:28,330 --> 00:52:25,640
very deeply meaningful in fact Sigmund

1260
00:52:30,910 --> 00:52:28,340
Freud said that these type of dreams

1261
00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:30,920
that are the most absurd and the most

1262
00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:33,550
outrageous can often be the most

1263
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:37,310
revealing about the dreamer these are

1264
00:52:42,340 --> 00:52:39,830
the dreams that a dr. Freud says oh yes

1265
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:42,350
tell me about that dream because we can

1266
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,990
you know we can talk about this one for

1267
00:52:49,630 --> 00:52:46,880
hours you know there's a lot that we can

1268
00:52:51,610 --> 00:52:49,640
learn from this another reason why

1269
00:52:53,890 --> 00:52:51,620
people have alien abduction dreams

1270
00:52:55,660 --> 00:52:53,900
especially the ones that start off

1271
00:52:58,540 --> 00:52:55,670
there's a commonality to the

1272
00:53:02,560 --> 00:52:58,550
descriptions it starts off with I was

1273
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:02,570
asleep I woke up and the UFO was out my

1274
00:53:07,690 --> 00:53:04,910
window I was floating off the ground or

1275
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:07,700
the little gray guys were gathered

1276
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:09,890
around my bed and I look around and I

1277
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:11,930
see them and they take me away this is

1278
00:53:18,070 --> 00:53:15,110
how these abduction reports often begin

1279
00:53:20,770 --> 00:53:18,080
and whenever I hear a UFO abduction

1280
00:53:23,830 --> 00:53:20,780
report that starts like that I think in

1281
00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:23,840
the back of my mind I really wonder

1282
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:26,390
whether what you experienced was sleep

1283
00:53:32,890 --> 00:53:29,690
paralysis the medical term for is called

1284
00:53:35,470 --> 00:53:32,900
REM atonia so REM is rapid eye movements

1285
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:35,480
and atonia means slackness of muscle and

1286
00:53:42,220 --> 00:53:38,690
what it happens is while you were

1287
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:42,230
dreaming the signals traveling from your

1288
00:53:48,010 --> 00:53:45,110
brain down to the body through the

1289
00:53:49,450 --> 00:53:48,020
nervous system are muted some of it can

1290
00:53:51,970 --> 00:53:49,460
leak through a little bit like if you

1291
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:51,980
dream about running you might switch a

1292
00:53:56,170 --> 00:53:54,050
little bit in your legs or you dream

1293
00:53:57,700 --> 00:53:56,180
about punching something and you might

1294
00:53:58,330 --> 00:53:57,710
move your arms or something

1295
00:54:00,430 --> 00:53:58,340
when

1296
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:00,440
people actually do start really kicking

1297
00:54:04,660 --> 00:54:02,570
their legs hard or punching hard and

1298
00:54:07,060 --> 00:54:04,670
they're dreaming about it that means

1299
00:54:09,550 --> 00:54:07,070
that there is something that signal is

1300
00:54:11,410 --> 00:54:09,560
no longer being muted and it's actually

1301
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:11,420
leaking through to the body and the body

1302
00:54:17,620 --> 00:54:14,930
is responding to what it's seeing in the

1303
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:17,630
dream imagery so what happens in sleep

1304
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:20,480
paralysis is you wake up and you are

1305
00:54:28,990 --> 00:54:25,310
still dreaming so what happens is

1306
00:54:30,970 --> 00:54:29,000
usually your dreaming mind responds to

1307
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:30,980
what you are thinking and especially

1308
00:54:36,370 --> 00:54:33,680
what you are feeling right if you wake

1309
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:36,380
up in a state of sleep paralysis and you

1310
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:38,690
don't know what the heck is going on a

1311
00:54:47,470 --> 00:54:43,040
common reaction is that you will either

1312
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,480
go from fear to full-blown terror if you

1313
00:54:51,490 --> 00:54:49,520
go into a state of full-blown terror

1314
00:54:54,340 --> 00:54:51,500
while you are dreaming and your eyes are

1315
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:54,350
open so your eyes are open but you are

1316
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:56,960
still dreaming your dreams will pull

1317
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:00,880
into the deepest darkest nastiest well

1318
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:03,530
inside of you that it can as a full

1319
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:05,810
imagery out of them for some people

1320
00:55:10,690 --> 00:55:07,730
their deepest darkest fears to be

1321
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:10,700
abducted by aliens for other people it

1322
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:13,610
might be related to demons or Devils or

1323
00:55:18,550 --> 00:55:16,610
witches or something like that so when

1324
00:55:20,260 --> 00:55:18,560
you are in sleep paralysis your dreams

1325
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:20,270
respond to what you're feeling and if

1326
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:22,670
what you feel is heavy fear then your

1327
00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:24,710
dreams will create imagery in response

1328
00:55:31,690 --> 00:55:28,520
to it and there is a study that suggests

1329
00:55:34,740 --> 00:55:31,700
that many abduction experiences are

1330
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:34,750
actually resulting from sleep paralysis

1331
00:55:38,980 --> 00:55:37,610
yeah sleep paralysis is a weird one man

1332
00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:38,990
I've always thought that was pretty

1333
00:55:44,260 --> 00:55:41,630
fascinating I know a few people who are

1334
00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:44,270
pretty hardcore materialist you really

1335
00:55:48,070 --> 00:55:45,950
don't have any interest in the

1336
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:48,080
paranormal or anything strange and

1337
00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:49,390
they've had some sleep paralysis

1338
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:52,070
experiences that you know made them do a

1339
00:55:56,770 --> 00:55:55,010
180 on some of that stuff and I also

1340
00:55:59,560 --> 00:55:56,780
want to ask you on the subject of major

1341
00:56:01,900 --> 00:55:59,570
symbols that people see in dreams let me

1342
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:01,910
ask you about animals because we know

1343
00:56:06,490 --> 00:56:04,400
animals as symbols is the common motif

1344
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,500
for a lot of cultures other ones that

1345
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:08,240
appear most commonly in dreams or

1346
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:10,490
animals to symbols or less ambiguous

1347
00:56:14,590 --> 00:56:12,290
than others

1348
00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:14,600
there are you know the animals that

1349
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:17,150
appear most often in my experience are

1350
00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:19,040
the animals that are closest to us so

1351
00:56:23,050 --> 00:56:20,990
it's probably going to be our pets or

1352
00:56:25,180 --> 00:56:23,060
something that is presented as a pet and

1353
00:56:27,820 --> 00:56:25,190
it's going to be that type of animal so

1354
00:56:31,450 --> 00:56:27,830
you're talking about dogs cats birds and

1355
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:31,460
maybe fish and lizards but let's just

1356
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:33,920
stick to dogs and cats right now you

1357
00:56:40,060 --> 00:56:37,040
know dreams begin with the things that

1358
00:56:42,070 --> 00:56:40,070
we associate with the imagery in the

1359
00:56:45,010 --> 00:56:42,080
dream the symbol in the dream it begins

1360
00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:45,020
there and then it works based off the

1361
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:47,950
create symbolism around our associations

1362
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:51,110
so what that means is when you think of

1363
00:56:57,460 --> 00:56:54,290
a dog you are going to have certain

1364
00:56:59,110 --> 00:56:57,470
thoughts that come to mind right away it

1365
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,120
could be how you feel about dogs right

1366
00:57:03,370 --> 00:57:01,280
now it could be how you feel about dogs

1367
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:03,380
in general there could be how you feel

1368
00:57:08,830 --> 00:57:06,050
about a specific dog like if you are a

1369
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:08,840
dog lover and you're you know beautiful

1370
00:57:14,370 --> 00:57:11,210
golden retriever is sitting there next

1371
00:57:17,530 --> 00:57:14,380
to you you might bring up words in

1372
00:57:19,090 --> 00:57:17,540
association with dogs that are how you

1373
00:57:22,810 --> 00:57:19,100
feel about your retriever

1374
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:22,820
you know loyal friend companion for

1375
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:26,210
other people it might be Guardian but if

1376
00:57:31,150 --> 00:57:28,640
you were kept up all night by your

1377
00:57:35,380 --> 00:57:31,160
neighbors barking dog then you might

1378
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:35,390
describe a dog as a nuisance or as you

1379
00:57:40,420 --> 00:57:37,850
know I want to kill the damn thing so

1380
00:57:42,190 --> 00:57:40,430
your dreams will begin with your

1381
00:57:44,620 --> 00:57:42,200
associations and then it will build

1382
00:57:47,890 --> 00:57:44,630
stories around it and you can see those

1383
00:57:50,890 --> 00:57:47,900
associations at work in how the dog is

1384
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:50,900
presented in the story how it looks and

1385
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:55,490
how it acts I find that probably the

1386
00:58:02,140 --> 00:57:58,250
most common Association for dogs and

1387
00:58:05,740 --> 00:58:02,150
dreams is with friendship the dog will

1388
00:58:08,380 --> 00:58:05,750
represent the subject of friendship or a

1389
00:58:11,230 --> 00:58:08,390
specific friend I'll give you a quick

1390
00:58:14,170 --> 00:58:11,240
example there was a guy who came to the

1391
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:14,180
reddit forum and he was very disturbed

1392
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:16,730
by a dream that he had he said that

1393
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:18,890
there was this dog that was being all

1394
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:21,170
friendly and following him around and he

1395
00:58:25,690 --> 00:58:22,880
decided that he didn't want the dog

1396
00:58:26,170 --> 00:58:25,700
around anymore so he tells the dog to go

1397
00:58:28,810 --> 00:58:26,180
away

1398
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:28,820
the dog is like oh no he knows like not

1399
00:58:34,090 --> 00:58:31,280
getting the hint so he says he pulls out

1400
00:58:36,370 --> 00:58:34,100
a gun and he shoots the dog and the dog

1401
00:58:38,590 --> 00:58:36,380
then still doesn't get the hint the dog

1402
00:58:41,590 --> 00:58:38,600
doesn't die it still kind of fall on rum

1403
00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:41,600
so he pulls out some bigger weaponry and

1404
00:58:47,050 --> 00:58:44,630
fires that at the dog and keeps going

1405
00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:47,060
and dog is just sort of unfazed by all

1406
00:58:53,890 --> 00:58:50,720
of us so he comes to the forum and he

1407
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:53,900
says man am i some kind of you know is

1408
00:58:58,510 --> 00:58:56,480
there some deep dark side of me lurking

1409
00:59:01,210 --> 00:58:58,520
behind the scenes that I don't know

1410
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:01,220
about you know I'm this cruel animal

1411
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:03,290
killer or whatever and I said okay well

1412
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:05,090
first of all you need to understand that

1413
00:59:11,020 --> 00:59:08,090
the dream imagery is symbolic it's

1414
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:11,030
figurative it's telling a story

1415
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:13,490
don't take the imagery literally no

1416
00:59:18,790 --> 00:59:16,010
matter how shocking the imagery is it's

1417
00:59:21,370 --> 00:59:18,800
not making a moral statement about you

1418
00:59:23,380 --> 00:59:21,380
there are a few exceptions to that rule

1419
00:59:26,650 --> 00:59:23,390
where dreams kind of create scenarios

1420
00:59:29,410 --> 00:59:26,660
like the holodeck in Star Trek and they

1421
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:29,420
can help you to realize what you really

1422
00:59:35,290 --> 00:59:32,450
think and feel but most dreams you've

1423
00:59:37,150 --> 00:59:35,300
got to strip out that literal

1424
00:59:39,130 --> 00:59:37,160
interpretation of the imagery and you

1425
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:39,140
have to look at it as symbolism as

1426
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:42,050
figurative in this case what we traced

1427
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:46,130
it back to is the guy has somebody who

1428
00:59:50,140 --> 00:59:49,040
you might call a friend who is sort of

1429
00:59:53,740 --> 00:59:50,150
this hanger-on

1430
00:59:55,420 --> 00:59:53,750
and he has gotten tired of her and he

1431
00:59:59,050 --> 00:59:55,430
decided that he was going to start

1432
01:00:02,380 --> 00:59:59,060
dropping hints that says bug out so he

1433
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:02,390
did that and the girl the friend's

1434
01:00:08,290 --> 01:00:05,330
supposed friend did not get the hint

1435
01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:08,300
so he started getting a little meaner

1436
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:11,150
and a little nastier and she just it was

1437
01:00:15,850 --> 01:00:12,710
just going right over her head she

1438
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:15,860
wasn't getting it so in the action of

1439
01:00:20,890 --> 01:00:18,770
him shooting the dog and then pulling

1440
01:00:23,290 --> 01:00:20,900
out heavier and heavier weapons to shoot

1441
01:00:24,790 --> 01:00:23,300
the dog and the dog does not die and

1442
01:00:27,310 --> 01:00:24,800
just keeps following him around all

1443
01:00:29,020 --> 01:00:27,320
friendly like is really describing the

1444
01:00:32,050 --> 01:00:29,030
situation with the person that he's

1445
01:00:34,030 --> 01:00:32,060
trying to get rid of so that's how you

1446
01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:34,040
take an imagery like that and you break

1447
01:00:38,980 --> 01:00:37,040
it down with animals you can often we

1448
01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:38,990
talked about associations but you can

1449
01:00:42,790 --> 01:00:39,710
also

1450
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:42,800
about the qualities of the animal the

1451
01:00:48,550 --> 01:00:46,609
ways that they are used in stories even

1452
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:48,560
in cartoons and stuff like that because

1453
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:50,570
animals are often shown as being human

1454
01:00:57,220 --> 01:00:52,910
life you know and stories like say you

1455
01:00:58,900 --> 01:00:57,230
know The Lion King or the movie ants now

1456
01:01:01,150 --> 01:00:58,910
we've taken this creature and we've

1457
01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:01,160
given it a life and if you are taking in

1458
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:03,470
that kind of media or you also see it a

1459
01:01:09,070 --> 01:01:05,839
lot my commercials and stuff well now

1460
01:01:11,620 --> 01:01:09,080
you have a really wide set or base of

1461
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:11,630
associations and ideas that could be

1462
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:16,160
used to talk about human stories but

1463
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:19,609
using animals to symbolize it like take

1464
01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:21,890
the fact that birds fly well what could

1465
01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:24,760
flying represent well how about freedom

1466
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:28,310
how about the fact that birds were used

1467
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:31,130
as messengers I mean there there are no

1468
01:01:35,740 --> 01:01:32,720
more carrier pigeons that we know about

1469
01:01:37,930 --> 01:01:35,750
but birds were used as messengers so

1470
01:01:41,260 --> 01:01:37,940
they can be messages from the

1471
01:01:43,570 --> 01:01:41,270
subconscious side of the mind it can be

1472
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:43,580
something that says hey are you getting

1473
01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:45,890
the message and if you aren't maybe the

1474
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:49,310
bird then attacks you and what it really

1475
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:51,650
represents is that there is something

1476
01:01:56,290 --> 01:01:54,050
inside of you that is saying hey hey

1477
01:01:58,810 --> 01:01:56,300
give me your attention here hey you're

1478
01:02:01,210 --> 01:01:58,820
you're trying to ignore me and the more

1479
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:01,220
you ignore me the more I am going to get

1480
01:02:06,339 --> 01:02:03,650
insistent that you pay attention to me

1481
01:02:09,010 --> 01:02:06,349
so that that's what a bird especially a

1482
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:09,020
black crow and I find that a lot you

1483
01:02:14,050 --> 01:02:11,930
know the the black crow dream and it

1484
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:14,060
makes you feel really creepy and it's

1485
01:02:18,460 --> 01:02:16,010
because the crow represents a message

1486
01:02:20,770 --> 01:02:18,470
from the dark side of your mind dark

1487
01:02:21,550 --> 01:02:20,780
meaning outside of your conscious

1488
01:02:24,010 --> 01:02:21,560
awareness

1489
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:24,020
so yeah animals are one that I would

1490
01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:26,930
include Greg with that list that we were

1491
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:29,030
making of common dream symbols because

1492
01:02:34,210 --> 01:02:31,490
they really do come up a lot and I think

1493
01:02:37,329 --> 01:02:34,220
it's because there is this great variety

1494
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:37,339
a of animals in be the association's

1495
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:39,710
that we have with those animals that can

1496
01:02:42,990 --> 01:02:41,810
be used to create symbolism and tell

1497
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:43,000
stories

1498
01:02:49,180 --> 01:02:45,530
absolutely man and there's definitely a

1499
01:02:51,940 --> 01:02:49,190
ton of very potent symbols when it comes

1500
01:02:53,450 --> 01:02:51,950
to animals bears owls snakes there's

1501
01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:53,460
just a ton of them and

1502
01:02:57,140 --> 01:02:56,099
well right on this has been a fun time

1503
01:02:59,660 --> 01:02:57,150
for sure

1504
01:03:01,640 --> 01:02:59,670
I think dreaming and sleep in general or

1505
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:01,650
things we kind of take for granted and

1506
01:03:04,940 --> 01:03:03,119
dreams are often such personal

1507
01:03:06,349 --> 01:03:04,950
experiences you can never really do them

1508
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:06,359
justice when you try to tell other

1509
01:03:10,220 --> 01:03:08,730
people and a lot of times we're just

1510
01:03:12,170 --> 01:03:10,230
stuck with this weirdness to deal with

1511
01:03:14,180 --> 01:03:12,180
alone so hopefully this was interesting

1512
01:03:17,180 --> 01:03:14,190
and maybe even therapeutic for some

1513
01:03:19,310 --> 01:03:17,190
people and last but not least before we

1514
01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:19,320
go tell the people where they can follow

1515
01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:21,390
up with you or dig deeper into your work

1516
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:23,160
since we know this wasn't going to be

1517
01:03:27,620 --> 01:03:25,770
enough well of course you know I have

1518
01:03:29,540 --> 01:03:27,630
the dream interpretation dictionary

1519
01:03:31,579 --> 01:03:29,550
symbol signs and meanings it's on the

1520
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:31,589
market right now it's at places like you

1521
01:03:36,349 --> 01:03:33,599
know Amazon Barnes and Noble Target

1522
01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:36,359
books-a-million IndieGoGo I want to make

1523
01:03:39,470 --> 01:03:38,160
sure I mention the small ones because

1524
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:39,480
they're just as important for your

1525
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:42,450
business too and it's there it's in book

1526
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:47,310
stores also it is it's 480 pages man and

1527
01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:50,310
I forward everything I know into that

1528
01:03:55,820 --> 01:03:53,339
book I give you a guide in the back of

1529
01:03:58,550 --> 01:03:55,830
it it's called figuring out your dreams

1530
01:04:01,940 --> 01:03:58,560
and it's about 30 pages that explains my

1531
01:04:04,730 --> 01:04:01,950
dreams 1 2 3 system of dream work of

1532
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:04,740
interpreting dreams you basically go

1533
01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:06,450
through the story you make associations

1534
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:09,720
you tie the details together you apply

1535
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:12,089
you look for storytelling devices such

1536
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:15,599
as metaphors puns analogies you can do

1537
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:17,310
these different techniques once you have

1538
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:19,200
them down man you can do it in five

1539
01:04:24,380 --> 01:04:21,690
minutes I kid you not now it might take

1540
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:24,390
you a few hours the first time to really

1541
01:04:28,070 --> 01:04:26,250
read through and digest everything but

1542
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,080
once you have that base of knowledge you

1543
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:30,480
can get in and then start to use the

1544
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:33,089
dictionary you wake up from a dream and

1545
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:35,609
it was a zombie it was an alien it was

1546
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:37,440
your ex you know you dream you're

1547
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:39,119
getting married you're driving in your

1548
01:04:43,250 --> 01:04:41,130
car you're building a home you know

1549
01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:43,260
you're in school you're standing there

1550
01:04:48,020 --> 01:04:45,839
naked you're flying you're falling you

1551
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:48,030
know you're being chased whatever it is

1552
01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:51,089
that there are symbolic possibilities

1553
01:04:56,450 --> 01:04:53,160
for all of these things and I go into

1554
01:04:59,180 --> 01:04:56,460
real depth in detail about this I don't

1555
01:05:00,680 --> 01:04:59,190
just give the standard you know one to

1556
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:00,690
three sentence or two or three

1557
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:03,330
paragraphs even I can really go into

1558
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:05,520
depth and I approach most of the symbols

1559
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:07,290
almost like writing a little

1560
01:05:13,460 --> 01:05:10,410
essays I want to teach you how to figure

1561
01:05:16,220 --> 01:05:13,470
out this for yourself the thing that

1562
01:05:18,650 --> 01:05:16,230
annoys the crap out of me about dream

1563
01:05:21,110 --> 01:05:18,660
dictionaries is they will just give you

1564
01:05:23,450 --> 01:05:21,120
the definition but they don't tell you

1565
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:23,460
how they reached that conclusion you

1566
01:05:27,170 --> 01:05:25,290
know like oh I had a dream that I had

1567
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:27,180
crazy frizzy hair you know when you look

1568
01:05:30,350 --> 01:05:28,530
it up in the dream dictionary and it

1569
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:30,360
says your thoughts are disordered and

1570
01:05:35,540 --> 01:05:33,570
you go oh okay well why well because

1571
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:35,550
hair grows from your head

1572
01:05:39,740 --> 01:05:37,050
and your thoughts grow from your head

1573
01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:39,750
and now you look at crazy frizzy you

1574
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:41,910
know and hair grows out it's an

1575
01:05:46,700 --> 01:05:43,920
extension of something like thoughts are

1576
01:05:48,770 --> 01:05:46,710
extensions out of the head you know and

1577
01:05:50,930 --> 01:05:48,780
you go okay well that makes sense most

1578
01:05:52,850 --> 01:05:50,940
dream dictionaries don't explain how

1579
01:05:56,270 --> 01:05:52,860
they reach their conclusions they just

1580
01:05:58,910 --> 01:05:56,280
give you the information so I wanted to

1581
01:06:01,580 --> 01:05:58,920
always at every point where I could

1582
01:06:04,580 --> 01:06:01,590
explain how do I reach these conclusions

1583
01:06:07,070 --> 01:06:04,590
how do I teach you to do it for yourself

1584
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:07,080
how do I teach you to look at your

1585
01:06:11,930 --> 01:06:10,110
dreams as stories told through symbolism

1586
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:11,940
that are helping you to learn and grow

1587
01:06:16,820 --> 01:06:13,650
that there is meaning and significance

1588
01:06:18,650 --> 01:06:16,830
that the symbolism is a language and

1589
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:18,660
there's a way of following the patterns

1590
01:06:22,910 --> 01:06:20,850
to that language how do I do this well I

1591
01:06:25,790 --> 01:06:22,920
give you a guide to figuring out your

1592
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:25,800
dreams and then I give you a dictionary

1593
01:06:31,550 --> 01:06:29,010
with more than 750 entries in it that

1594
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:31,560
repeats the things that I say but it was

1595
01:06:36,740 --> 01:06:34,050
specifically to the dream symbol so it's

1596
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:36,750
reminding you of what I have taught you

1597
01:06:42,050 --> 01:06:39,570
in the beginning so now you can use the

1598
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:42,060
dream interpretation dictionary as your

1599
01:06:46,370 --> 01:06:44,160
lifelong guide you keep it there by your

1600
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:46,380
bedside you wake up from a dream you

1601
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:48,510
write it down and then you dig in and

1602
01:06:52,190 --> 01:06:50,370
you go okay well there was an

1603
01:06:53,570 --> 01:06:52,200
interesting metaphor in this dream let's

1604
01:06:56,090 --> 01:06:53,580
see what this guy has to say about

1605
01:06:58,250 --> 01:06:56,100
metaphors you know I remember a symbol

1606
01:07:00,320 --> 01:06:58,260
from the dream okay yeah let's look up

1607
01:07:01,730 --> 01:07:00,330
that symbol you know and so now you

1608
01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:01,740
start to put all the pieces together

1609
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:04,470
that is the best place to go and also

1610
01:07:10,070 --> 01:07:07,770
dreams 1-2-3 dotnet I have a lot of

1611
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:10,080
comments on some of the dreams such as I

1612
01:07:15,260 --> 01:07:12,810
talk about snakes and pregnancy dreams

1613
01:07:17,030 --> 01:07:15,270
and death dreams and people are picking

1614
01:07:18,830 --> 01:07:17,040
up these results people around the world

1615
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,840
man i watch the search engine results

1616
01:07:22,579 --> 01:07:21,119
and it's crazy I got people every

1617
01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:22,589
we're who are picking up the results off

1618
01:07:26,749 --> 01:07:24,720
of my website and they're coming there

1619
01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:26,759
or they're hearing about me on programs

1620
01:07:31,009 --> 01:07:28,619
like yours and they're deciding they're

1621
01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:31,019
going to dig deep and I'll see them you

1622
01:07:36,410 --> 01:07:34,529
know dig into 10 or 15 or more articles

1623
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,420
on my website and they'll spend hours

1624
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:38,160
there just reading through all of this I

1625
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:40,170
do have one other thing I want to

1626
01:07:45,739 --> 01:07:42,690
suggest for your listeners look up we

1627
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:45,749
love dreams newsletter as one search

1628
01:07:50,809 --> 01:07:48,930
phrase I know at Google it will come up

1629
01:07:52,849 --> 01:07:50,819
as the first results and in most other

1630
01:07:55,279 --> 01:07:52,859
search engines it will also I haven't

1631
01:07:57,470 --> 01:07:55,289
tried them all the point is you look up

1632
01:08:00,489 --> 01:07:57,480
we love dreams newsletter by JM to board

1633
01:08:02,569 --> 01:08:00,499
or rattle at reddit that's how I kind of

1634
01:08:06,170 --> 01:08:02,579
promote myself the newsletter started

1635
01:08:08,210 --> 01:08:06,180
off as a reddit dreams forum newsletter

1636
01:08:10,130 --> 01:08:08,220
for pointing out really interesting

1637
01:08:12,529 --> 01:08:10,140
dreams that we've had submitted there

1638
01:08:14,420 --> 01:08:12,539
and interesting discussions and over

1639
01:08:16,879 --> 01:08:14,430
time it's evolved into sort of my

1640
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:16,889
personal platform for communicating to

1641
01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:18,810
people who want to stay in touch with me

1642
01:08:25,099 --> 01:08:22,710
and then I created an online dream

1643
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,109
interpretation correspondence course

1644
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:28,080
basically at my site is everything that

1645
01:08:32,570 --> 01:08:30,690
you need to know to start off with dream

1646
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:32,580
interpretation including remembering

1647
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:35,040
dreams and decoding dream symbolism and

1648
01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:36,839
then looking at all these different

1649
01:08:41,209 --> 01:08:39,299
aspects like how do I make associations

1650
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,219
and what does it mean when I have strong

1651
01:08:45,709 --> 01:08:43,199
emotions and dreams and stuff like that

1652
01:08:48,050 --> 01:08:45,719
and so I take it all and I give it to

1653
01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:48,060
you as emails that will automatically be

1654
01:08:52,430 --> 01:08:49,980
sent to you you give me your email

1655
01:08:54,740 --> 01:08:52,440
address in your first name last name if

1656
01:08:56,450 --> 01:08:54,750
you want to it's not necessary and then

1657
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,460
you punch it in and you immediately

1658
01:09:00,890 --> 01:08:58,799
start getting the email sent to you and

1659
01:09:03,229 --> 01:09:00,900
it will give you everything that you

1660
01:09:05,599 --> 01:09:03,239
need to know to at least get started and

1661
01:09:07,579 --> 01:09:05,609
if you like me the way that I present

1662
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:07,589
this information I'm pretty loose about

1663
01:09:10,910 --> 01:09:09,839
this man I'm the radical owl you know so

1664
01:09:13,070 --> 01:09:10,920
I'm not going to be sitting there

1665
01:09:14,809 --> 01:09:13,080
hitting you over top of the head with a

1666
01:09:16,910 --> 01:09:14,819
bunch of big words and stuff you know I

1667
01:09:19,519 --> 01:09:16,920
mean a few here and there but the point

1668
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:19,529
is is that I want to explain this in

1669
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:21,330
ways that's very accessible and

1670
01:09:25,999 --> 01:09:23,759
understandable for people you don't need

1671
01:09:28,189 --> 01:09:26,009
to have a PhD in psychiatry to

1672
01:09:32,030 --> 01:09:28,199
understand your dreams you know what you

1673
01:09:34,829 --> 01:09:32,040
need really is here it is to understand

1674
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:34,839
that what you are doing is remembering

1675
01:09:40,589 --> 01:09:37,810
what you already know when you interpret

1676
01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:40,599
your dream you are reminding yourself of

1677
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:43,060
what you already know because you

1678
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:46,960
invented the dream when you start there

1679
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:47,650
you go

1680
01:09:52,019 --> 01:09:50,080
oh okay well the dream is a story and I

1681
01:09:54,209 --> 01:09:52,029
invented it to send a message from one

1682
01:09:56,700 --> 01:09:54,219
side of my brain to the other hmm

1683
01:09:58,500 --> 01:09:56,710
well how do I remind myself of what I

1684
01:10:00,209 --> 01:09:58,510
already know then everything else about

1685
01:10:02,010 --> 01:10:00,219
dream interpretation launches from there

1686
01:10:05,339 --> 01:10:02,020
hmm awesome

1687
01:10:07,290 --> 01:10:05,349
there it is and no doubt dreams are

1688
01:10:09,570 --> 01:10:07,300
definitely a curious thing and it is a

1689
01:10:11,939 --> 01:10:09,580
rabbit hole worth traveling town once in

1690
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:11,949
a while so definitely thanks for this

1691
01:10:19,140 --> 01:10:16,480
Jam Debord aka red owl aka mr. Sandman

1692
01:10:20,970 --> 01:10:19,150
himself thanks again and dream on right

1693
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:20,980
on brother thank you for introducing me

1694
01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:22,210
to your audience and having me on your

1695
01:10:26,839 --> 01:10:24,070
show I really appreciate it quick you

1696
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:26,849
got it man thanks for being here

1697
01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:30,400
halleluia and hello people JM Debord

1698
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:33,310
dream interpretation symbolism and

1699
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,830
subconscious I think this was a pretty

1700
01:10:42,260 --> 01:10:38,320
fun show and it is great to be back

1701
01:10:44,879 --> 01:10:42,270
talking to you people again July 2017

1702
01:10:47,339 --> 01:10:44,889
got to say probably the best month of my

1703
01:10:49,709 --> 01:10:47,349
life having all my friends out from home

1704
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:49,719
at the same time was amazing anyone

1705
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:52,449
who's ever relocated knows how it would

1706
01:10:56,609 --> 01:10:54,730
feel to have like two dozen of your

1707
01:10:59,790 --> 01:10:56,619
closest friends come out at the same

1708
01:11:02,189 --> 01:10:59,800
time so great and the wedding was on

1709
01:11:04,859 --> 01:11:02,199
point and a ton of fun having Gordon

1710
01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:04,869
white in town was a blast we actually

1711
01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:07,960
broke him in to his first game of beer

1712
01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:10,719
pong believe it or not and I was

1713
01:11:15,689 --> 01:11:12,820
definitely the one that brought down our

1714
01:11:17,729 --> 01:11:15,699
team I also have a friend Mark who can

1715
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:17,739
be a bit of a bullshitter but he's also

1716
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:21,250
a level two sommelier you know a wine

1717
01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:25,330
guy back home and to hear him and Gordon

1718
01:11:30,030 --> 01:11:27,400
wasted talking about wines from around

1719
01:11:31,649 --> 01:11:30,040
the world was just hilarious for me and

1720
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:31,659
Gordon thought it was hilarious that

1721
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:33,730
mark does have all this knowledge of the

1722
01:11:38,879 --> 01:11:36,010
world's wines but has zero desire to

1723
01:11:42,209 --> 01:11:38,889
travel and he's just a character and it

1724
01:11:44,879 --> 01:11:42,219
was a lot of fun all around the

1725
01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:44,889
honeymoon in Tulum was excellent Mayan

1726
01:11:48,569 --> 01:11:47,800
ruins right on the beach huge iguanas

1727
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:48,579
crawling all

1728
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:51,010
over the place we snorkeled in the

1729
01:11:56,699 --> 01:11:54,489
cenotes which are like caves of water we

1730
01:11:59,099 --> 01:11:56,709
got into one with hundreds of bats and

1731
01:12:00,389 --> 01:11:59,109
of course a nice oil slick of bat [\h__\h]

1732
01:12:02,270 --> 01:12:00,399
on the surface of the water that I

1733
01:12:05,459 --> 01:12:02,280
couldn't get past to fully enjoy myself

1734
01:12:08,429 --> 01:12:05,469
we snorkel doubt in the reef in the

1735
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:08,439
ocean and saw these huge sea turtles

1736
01:12:12,959 --> 01:12:10,449
like inches from us and we saw a big

1737
01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:12,969
manta ray it was pretty incredible I

1738
01:12:17,310 --> 01:12:15,369
didn't get to swim with dolphins because

1739
01:12:19,349 --> 01:12:17,320
apparently they were out of season near

1740
01:12:22,889 --> 01:12:19,359
the reef and I guess the only option was

1741
01:12:26,129 --> 01:12:22,899
some semi tame or enclosed dolphin place

1742
01:12:27,089 --> 01:12:26,139
and I didn't want to do it like that but

1743
01:12:30,810 --> 01:12:27,099
I could not have asked for a better

1744
01:12:33,029 --> 01:12:30,820
break a better time or a better wife and

1745
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:33,039
I recorded this show actually before I

1746
01:12:37,229 --> 01:12:34,570
left but there just wasn't enough time

1747
01:12:39,419 --> 01:12:37,239
to get it edited beforehand so I'm

1748
01:12:41,909 --> 01:12:39,429
getting it out now and I also did some

1749
01:12:43,859 --> 01:12:41,919
fixing on the broken feed so make sure

1750
01:12:46,109 --> 01:12:43,869
you refresh them and they should update

1751
01:12:48,659 --> 01:12:46,119
and I'm still in the process of moving

1752
01:12:50,699 --> 01:12:48,669
apartments too we didn't think we were

1753
01:12:52,770 --> 01:12:50,709
busy enough in July I guess so we also

1754
01:12:54,719 --> 01:12:52,780
decided to move across town or back to

1755
01:12:57,169 --> 01:12:54,729
Pacific Beach because I could not stand

1756
01:12:59,849 --> 01:12:57,179
being under the airport flight path

1757
01:13:01,649 --> 01:12:59,859
every once in a while and THC episodes

1758
01:13:06,889 --> 01:13:01,659
you can hear a plane flying over and

1759
01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:06,899
it's just annoying and it's finally gone

1760
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:08,729
I've got two more days to finish moving

1761
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:11,010
and two more days to hit you with at

1762
01:13:16,639 --> 01:13:13,530
least one more show for July and I will

1763
01:13:18,799 --> 01:13:16,649
tell you I recorded it also before I

1764
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:18,809
left and it's exciting it's the return

1765
01:13:24,649 --> 01:13:21,449
of a pretty popular guest Tracy Twyman

1766
01:13:27,799 --> 01:13:24,659
so we have a pretty nice calm light one

1767
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:27,809
today about dreams and a deep dark one

1768
01:13:33,169 --> 01:13:30,169
with Tracy about the stuff of nightmares

1769
01:13:34,819 --> 01:13:33,179
coming up soon but hopefully you like

1770
01:13:36,589 --> 01:13:34,829
this episode I have a man's dream

1771
01:13:39,290 --> 01:13:36,599
interpretation Dictionary from the

1772
01:13:40,250 --> 01:13:39,300
publisher and it was so thick and I just

1773
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:40,260
thought hell yeah

1774
01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:42,090
dreams and their meanings would be a

1775
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:44,369
great topic not talked about nearly

1776
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:46,110
enough and I hope you found something

1777
01:13:51,919 --> 01:13:48,719
interesting in it it is very odd how as

1778
01:13:54,949 --> 01:13:51,929
the vs. dreams can be we still have

1779
01:13:57,949 --> 01:13:54,959
these reoccurring threads and narratives

1780
01:14:00,169 --> 01:13:57,959
that play through a lot of our heads the

1781
01:14:02,060 --> 01:14:00,179
teeth fallen out stuff the being naked

1782
01:14:04,189 --> 01:14:02,070
in front of a crowd stuff the being in

1783
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:04,199
school again or not being able to

1784
01:14:08,179 --> 01:14:06,090
graduate or not having the credits or

1785
01:14:09,770 --> 01:14:08,189
whatever a lot of people have those kind

1786
01:14:12,139 --> 01:14:09,780
of things going on in their dreams I

1787
01:14:14,899 --> 01:14:12,149
actually learned and I can't put them on

1788
01:14:18,109 --> 01:14:14,909
blast but two friends that were hanging

1789
01:14:21,259 --> 01:14:18,119
out the wedding week actually started

1790
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:21,269
talking about abduction dreams that they

1791
01:14:26,750 --> 01:14:25,110
have recurring ones and it was just

1792
01:14:28,939 --> 01:14:26,760
really interesting to see these two

1793
01:14:32,029 --> 01:14:28,949
people from totally separate areas of my

1794
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:32,039
life and one's describing oh I have

1795
01:14:35,359 --> 01:14:33,570
these shadow figures and they're the

1796
01:14:36,830 --> 01:14:35,369
edge of my bed and then I have to look

1797
01:14:38,810 --> 01:14:36,840
over at them and write when I look at

1798
01:14:41,029 --> 01:14:38,820
them that's when they rush me and the

1799
01:14:42,350 --> 01:14:41,039
other dudes like yep yep absolutely and

1800
01:14:44,270 --> 01:14:42,360
then does this happen he's like yeah

1801
01:14:46,759 --> 01:14:44,280
yeah yeah and then does that happen and

1802
01:14:49,279 --> 01:14:46,769
I was like holy [\h__\h] I've known these

1803
01:14:51,229 --> 01:14:49,289
guys for a while didn't necessarily know

1804
01:14:53,509 --> 01:14:51,239
that they were having these kind of

1805
01:14:55,399 --> 01:14:53,519
dreams but one of them does listen to

1806
01:14:57,290 --> 01:14:55,409
THC and he's one of the few friends of

1807
01:14:59,989 --> 01:14:57,300
mine from high school that actually does

1808
01:15:02,689 --> 01:14:59,999
so maybe there's a connection there he's

1809
01:15:04,759 --> 01:15:02,699
down with the weirdness for sure but

1810
01:15:07,759 --> 01:15:04,769
I've now recently learned three people

1811
01:15:10,369 --> 01:15:07,769
close to me have routine abduction

1812
01:15:13,129 --> 01:15:10,379
dreams and that's just crazy

1813
01:15:15,799 --> 01:15:13,139
you think you know a guy right and you

1814
01:15:17,810 --> 01:15:15,809
just never ask I have another friend who

1815
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:17,820
I also can't put on blast you won't go

1816
01:15:22,459 --> 01:15:20,489
see alien movies

1817
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:22,469
and I didn't really understand why and

1818
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:24,570
then I found out he had an experience

1819
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:25,920
that he don't even want to talk about

1820
01:15:33,009 --> 01:15:28,710
but he also won't go see any alien

1821
01:15:35,810 --> 01:15:33,019
themed movies because of that so pretty

1822
01:15:37,399 --> 01:15:35,820
all-encompassing episode in terms of

1823
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:37,409
dreams if you think there's something we

1824
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:38,730
didn't get to in the first hour we

1825
01:15:42,979 --> 01:15:40,530
probably covered it in a second we

1826
01:15:46,189 --> 01:15:42,989
talked about dreams and DMT shared

1827
01:15:48,140 --> 01:15:46,199
dreams even at different times cases of

1828
01:15:49,879 --> 01:15:48,150
prophetic dreams and picking winning

1829
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:49,889
lottery tickets in the dream state

1830
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:53,280
getting insight into past lives in your

1831
01:15:58,399 --> 01:15:56,130
dreams falling in love and dreams with

1832
01:16:00,379 --> 01:15:58,409
people that we never met in waking life

1833
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:00,389
but always remember I've had that

1834
01:16:05,239 --> 01:16:03,360
experience and also cases where we do

1835
01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:05,249
actually meet the people that we fell in

1836
01:16:10,729 --> 01:16:07,440
love with and dreams how to increase

1837
01:16:13,450 --> 01:16:10,739
stream or attention you know all great

1838
01:16:16,689 --> 01:16:13,460
stuff so I think it was a solid return

1839
01:16:19,129 --> 01:16:16,699
really actually loved the mag Norris 7

1840
01:16:21,939 --> 01:16:19,139
episode that was right before I left

1841
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:21,949
about the rothschilds carving up Africa

1842
01:16:28,430 --> 01:16:25,199
that was full of interesting stuff and

1843
01:16:30,410 --> 01:16:28,440
we got Tracy coming up next so we are

1844
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:30,420
back in the saddle guys and riding on

1845
01:16:32,930 --> 01:16:32,159
through to the promised land and I'll

1846
01:16:34,700 --> 01:16:32,940
see you soon

1847
01:16:36,649 --> 01:16:34,710
your move Jungian archetypes

1848
01:16:43,390 --> 01:16:36,659
subconscious characters and lucid

1849
01:16:49,010 --> 01:16:46,549
lucid dreams are so vivid because you go

1850
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:49,020
to bed at 7:00 and your brain comes

1851
01:16:54,919 --> 01:16:52,170
alive because uhm nine to five you wake

1852
01:16:57,169 --> 01:16:54,929
up with a dread and make sure your cats

1853
01:16:59,899 --> 01:16:57,179
are fed did your brain talk to ghosts

1854
01:17:03,950 --> 01:16:59,909
who moved your coffee and a toast as you

1855
01:17:06,859 --> 01:17:03,960
listen to the higher side chats you get

1856
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:06,869
to your desk and your bosses it's a mess

1857
01:17:11,899 --> 01:17:09,690
and your soul slowly goes to a place

1858
01:17:16,819 --> 01:17:11,909
when nothing gross when you think he's

1859
01:17:19,459 --> 01:17:16,829
not around you insert a SETI sound the

1860
01:17:23,870 --> 01:17:19,469
yo answers turn it down and you say it's

1861
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:23,880
just a higher side chat oh do you think

1862
01:17:31,970 --> 01:17:27,170
you're being invited to Bohemian Grove

1863
01:17:36,370 --> 01:17:31,980
to a Bilderberg Club oh do you think to

1864
01:17:41,359 --> 01:17:36,380
be invited by Rasta to a party on a

1865
01:17:44,029 --> 01:17:41,369
submarine diving down

1866
01:17:46,669 --> 01:17:44,039
to the center of the earth to the

1867
01:17:50,719 --> 01:17:46,679
Marianas Trench your teeth begin to

1868
01:17:55,009 --> 01:17:50,729
clench from the sulphureus tense the

1869
01:18:00,949 --> 01:17:55,019
mask you give in doesn't fit cuz you're

1870
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:00,959
not one of them starting today you'll

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01:18:05,869 --> 01:18:03,449
make plans to get away there's no one

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01:18:08,509 --> 01:18:05,879
girl hold you down and the waters start

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01:18:11,149 --> 01:18:08,519
to drown when you wake to the glare of

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01:18:13,580 --> 01:18:11,159
Akko fluorescence there and the light

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01:18:15,739 --> 01:18:13,590
winks at you cuz its life is almost

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01:18:19,429 --> 01:18:15,749
through but it's holding gone to quit